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MTI 11-09-2011 03:20 PM

Adobe Ends Mobile Flash Player
 
Flash Free On Phones and Tablets

Adobe Systems Inc. said Wednesday that it is ending its development of the Flash Player plug-in for mobile devices and will instead shift its resources and third-party partners to its Adobe AIR software and HTML5 technologies for interactive websites, apps and video playback.

Apple mobile users know how much Steve Jobs hated Flash, but according to the article Microsoft was also moving away from it.

SwampYankee 11-09-2011 03:23 PM

You mean someday I might be able to view embedded videos on my iPhone?

spdrun 11-09-2011 03:28 PM

You can view Flash on an iDevice now, just not with Safari. As much as I dislike Flash, a lot of sites are written in it, so Adobe and Crapple may as well accept reality.

MTI 11-09-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SwampYankee (Post 2825266)
You mean someday I might be able to view embedded videos on my iPhone?

Yes, hopefully on future RyanAir flights. ;)

SwampYankee 11-09-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 2825279)
Yes, hopefully on future RyanAir flights. ;)

:D

Dee8go 11-11-2011 09:58 AM

What is the alternative to Flash that does run on Apple devices?

Jobs' biographer said that he felt betrayed by Adobe, when he came back to Apple and they refused to write their new programs for the Mac platform, and that was partly the reason he refused to support Flash. The other reason was that is didn't run well because of Adobe's "be everything-to-everybody" policy.

spdrun 11-11-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 2826430)
What is the alternative to Flash that does run on Apple devices?

Jobs' biographer said that he felt betrayed by Adobe, when he came back to Apple and they refused to write their new programs for the Mac platform, and that was partly the reason he refused to support Flash. The other reason was that is didn't run well because of Adobe's "be everything-to-everybody" policy.

There's a browser that converts Flash to HTML5 and then displays it. Jobsie-wobsie was getting senile anyway, and this says even more about that.

MTI 11-11-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 2826445)
Jobsie-wobsie was getting senile anyway, and this says even more about that.

Not a perfect guy, but I would wager that his senility was multiples beyond most persons normal abilities.

spdrun 11-11-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 2826769)
Not a perfect guy, but I would wager that his senility was multiples beyond most persons normal abilities.

A good marketeer and salesman, but the brains were somewhere else. First Woz, then a bunch of nameless and unsung designers and engineers.

Medmech 11-12-2011 10:14 AM

Flash bogged down mobile devices, its an old code that was originally designed for mouse over pc type application its a dinosaur. Jobs did not kill Flash Adobe did because they know its garbage.

spdrun 11-12-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Medmech (Post 2826950)
Flash bogged down mobile devices, its an old code that was originally designed for mouse over pc type application its a dinosaur. Jobs did not kill Flash Adobe did because they know its garbage.

Mobile devices are as powerful as PCs were in the early 2000s. Plus the code for the player itself could be rewritten.

MTI 11-12-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 2826983)
Mobile devices are as powerful as PCs were in the early 2000s. Plus the code for the player itself could be rewritten.

Adobe will shift its resources toward giving Flash developers the tools to turn their Flash files into native apps for mobile operating systems with Adobe AIR.

Apparently they chose not to, laying off several hundred employees, so are your second guessing Adobe's decision based on some inside information about their choice?

spdrun 11-12-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 2826988)
Adobe will shift its resources toward giving Flash developers the tools to turn their Flash files into native apps for mobile operating systems with Adobe AIR.

Apparently they chose not to, laying off several hundred employees, so are your second guessing Adobe's decision based on some inside information about their choice?

Nice -- so developers will have to release several apps for each site, one for each mobile OS. (Unless Adobe is talking about running the app under their AIR platform, which would then essentially be the same thing as Flash player with a different name.)

Plus, installing native apps on platforms like the iPhone and some AT&T Android devices required going through a "store" where the apps have to be censored by the manufacturer (CrApple) or OS developer (Google store).

Basically, they've just increased web developers' support and troubleshooting burden fourfold at least. Though it's interesting that the trend seems to be towards the "cloud," and creating more native apps is a move in the opposite direction.


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