J. Edgar
 

Saw it tonight. Clint Eastwood makes a good movie. Larry would like it. You know, the whole law and order thing.

Was there a baboon in this one? :D

That was a different movie that also appealed to self professed conservatives.

Which way did the baboon lean? :D

Mostly over.

So your saying that the Republicans are giving it to him in the A$$?
:eek::D:D:D

"Repo Man" (1984, dir. Alec Cox)
 

Miller: John Wayne was a fag.
All: The hell he was.
Miller: He was, too, you boys. I installed two-way mirrors in his pad in Brentwood, and he come to the door in a dress.

Clyde was an Orangatang buddy!

John Wayne a queen?

Hah!;)

(Not that there is anything wrong with that....really).

But he just had to always play the super macho bad a$$. I read that he had lifts in all his shoes too.

Whether he directs or acts or both, I'm a huge Eastwood fan. The Outlaw Josey Wales, Pale Rider and Gran Torino are probably my favorites.

One of the greatest western movie scenes ever, "endeavor to persevere"
Lone Watie - YouTube

So, how close to "truth" was the movie?
J Edgard was, ah, a complex individual. Most larger-than-life people are.

That is a good scene. That Indian actor played a lot of interesting and great parts. He has a wonderful way about him.

Truth is an elusive quality.

I saw J. Edgar last night. I liked it a lot, but I find it hard to believe that Hoover was really that much of a whack job. The character depicted in that movie was one sick SOB. Leonardo DiCaprio is a great actor.

Hoover was truly a strange man. He had his agents dig up dirt on all the Politicians (and other folks) so he could blackmail them to keep his job forever.

As for the cross dressing thing I suppose nobody knows for sure but I have read a lot of speculation about it.

It matters not to me his sexual preferences but he had many other things to detract from liking him.

My Mom worked for him back in the late 40's or mid 50's or so. She was known as a real looker and was used to handsy men. Said he was pretty strange.

Me too.

- Peter.

My impression is that Hoover grew stranger with age. The natural paranoia of the job must be terrific pressure.

We have finally realized his dream: A national police force -- DHS. Don't worry, be happy.

It's amazing the amount of law and order nonsense that can be generated from repressed homosexuality.

handsy?

Out of respect I will not speculate what that means. Aklim might though!:P

J. Edgar loved the ponies......race horses, that is. He would come to Pimlico in Baltimore for the spring meet several times a week with Clyde. As a big city motor cop, I would often get the escort duty. He never, even once, acknowledge us or thanked us.

Daman....

I once read a book about Hoover titled 'No Left Turns'. Hoover never wanted his driver to make a left turn since that would leave the person sitting in the rear on the passengers side, where Hoover is said to have always sat, in the worst place to be if the car was hit while taking a corner.

Do you remember anything like this?

By the way, the book was written by a retired FBI guy who said Hoover had a lot of weirdness about him. He says Hoover also did not like to be touched and this led to a problem in Austin when LBJ, who was President at the time, walked up and put his arm around Hoover as they walked and talked. Hoover was supposed to be freaked out, but the Press was there. I think the speculation was that LBJ only did it to show Hoover that he could.

Yes, great movie and a great scene!!

whooped em again Josie!

Josie and The Pussy Cats? :confused::D

Pooka,

If I recall correctly, when we escorted J. Edgar to the racetrack, we never made a left turn. This was in the late 60's. We would back track to avoid lefts and were told it was a security issue.

LBJ definately might do it for that reason!;)

Daman,

Thanks for the answer. According to the book the 'security issue' was Hoover was afraid of being in the 'Death Seat'. He was not worried about attempts on his life, he was worried about someone coming through a light or not watching where they were going.

If you can ever find the book 'No Left Turns' it is a fun read if you like that sort of thing. It is out of print but Amazon has some used ones for $97!

Apparently it has become somewhat of a collectors item.

I recently read the book "Five Families" by Selwyn Rabb. It was a fascinating look at the Mafia.

In it, Mr. Rabb is very critical of J. Edgar Hoover, saying that he had the FBI concentrate on bank robberies and interstate car theft, relatively easy slam- dunk cases. He says that Hoover was more interested in clearance numbers than actually investigating crimes by the mob. The book reveals that Hoover would never even acknowledge the existence of the Mafia, allowing it to grow in power over the years. Hoover only allowed investigations of the mob to begin in earnest after the McClellan Hearings in 1963, which put a lot of pressure on the FBI to take on the Mafia.

Hoover also required all FBI agents to wear suits, no sport coats and slacks, and white shirts only.
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