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PaulC 11-16-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2828990)
Bush's crony capitalism gave us a better economy than BO's crony socialism.

That sounds like something that a Tea Party troll would say. Recall the last year of the Bush administration? Are those the good old days that you wish to see return?

tjts1 11-16-2011 10:16 AM

I still don't get why Larry feels the need to trash Newt. It seems like trollish behavior. Whatever

PaulC 11-16-2011 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 2828997)
I still don't get why Larry feels the need to trash Newt. It seems like trollish behavior. Whatever

Larry's adopted a new tack: Instead of the melodramatic martyrdom of a year ago (I'm leaving, I'm out of here, no, I really mean it, I'm leaving!) when a few called him on his nonsense, we now have Tea Party trollery manifested in the production of insipid commentary intended to rankle those who don't fall in line with certain bigoted views.

Can't wait for Larry 3.0...

Air&Road 11-16-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC (Post 2829018)
Larry's adopted a new tack: Instead of the melodramatic martyrdom of a year ago (I'm leaving, I'm out of here, no, I really mean it, I'm leaving!) when a few called him on his nonsense, we now have Tea Party trollery manifested in the production of insipid commentary intended to rankle those who don't fall in line with certain bigoted views.

Can't wait for Larry 3.0...


What makes you think that I have Tea Party affiliation? Whatever you think it is incorrect.

PaulC 11-16-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829022)
What makes you think that I have Tea Party affiliation?

Just your posts on this forum; that is all.

Air&Road 11-16-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 2828997)
I still don't get why Larry feels the need to trash Newt. It seems like trollish behavior. Whatever


Are you just joking, or is your reading comprehension REALLY incapable of understanding my original post?

Air&Road 11-16-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulC (Post 2828992)
That sounds like something that a Tea Party troll would say. Recall the last year of the Bush administration? Are those the good old days that you wish to see return?


Yes, the last year of the Bush administration was indeed bad news. The results of Dodd/Frank came home to roost. That was the beginning of the end. GW fell for the TARP, and then BO took us much deeper into new low's, or high's if you would rather measure it in National Debt terms.

elchivito 11-16-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 2828477)
Red= Well there you go.
Blue= Never implied.

I don't see Politico leaning any which way but loose, ever since their endorsement of President Bush years ago. I enjoy reading you tell Larry he's brainwashed and basically implying ignorance to the 'truth', when you yourself take the stance of every lefty I have the so 'gracious opportunity' to converse with in Connecticut.

Don't worry Larry, we're just too simple and ignorant to see that the left wing knows whats best for us common folk. Maybe I should emulate our current President and play a round of golf in between classes and conferences. Or lend money to companies that go belly up all over the place. Or force emissions regulations that no one wants to adhere to except So Cal. Buy out an awful auto union to produce more cars no one 'wants'.

As to our ravenous appetite for power, I don't recall President Bush entering a conflict without Congressional approval or throwing fliff around like a sultan. I also only recall the slaying of one dictator under Bush's regime, and two down thus far in the Obama Presidency.
So... who's the war monger?

I don't get why anyone follows the leader boards regarding who's on top in the public vote for the Republicans. While Romney isn't the furthest right candidate we've got, he's well moderate enough to succeed appealing to ALL constituents. Plus, it's the RNCs final decision anyways. Cain is obviously a no go-- he has less foreign policy education than Obama. Gingrich is an easy kill skeleton wise, but I would thoroughly enjoy watching him mop the floor with Obama in a debate. I can hear him stutter like Dubya now.

Ah, who can argue with the voice of years of experience, watching political campaigns, personally living through various administrations, choosing and voting for presidents. How many was it again?

Solid Snake 11-16-2011 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2829030)
Ah, who can argue with the voice of years of experience, watching political campaigns, personally living through various administrations, choosing and voting for presidents. How many was it again?

Four, if you count lame duck periods :D

I speak not from experience or political background. I stick by whichever policies can make America's GDP positive over debt. It just so happens that this makes me bow right.

Air&Road 11-16-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 2829040)
Four, if you count lame duck periods :D

I speak not from experience or political background. I stick by whichever policies can make America's GDP positive over debt. It just so happens that this makes me bow right.


Don't waste your breath snake. Common sense and the power of observation is something that many are incapable of understanding.

I've lived during 12 Presidential Administrations and voted in ten Presidential races, but experience means nothing in the minds of rank beginners. In your case, you're just a quick study.

elchivito 11-16-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829045)
Don't waste your breath snake. Common sense and the power of observation is something that many are incapable of understanding.

Translation:
Only those who BOW - an excellent word choice by the way- the same direction we do have any common sense or understanding.

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829045)
I've lived during 12 Presidential Administrations and voted in ten Presidential races, but experience means nothing in the minds of rank beginners. In your case, you're just a quick study.

Translation: Even though you've yet to actually cast a vote in a presidential race, the fact that you and I agree makes you real smart.

Air&Road 11-16-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2829093)
Translation:
Only those who BOW - an excellent word choice by the way- the same direction we do have any common sense or understanding.



Translation: Even though you've yet to actually cast a vote in a presidential race, the fact that you and I agree makes you real smart.


Very Good! You should follow suit!

tbomachines 11-16-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829045)
Common sense and the power of observation is something that many are incapable of understanding

Oh, the extreme irony! Almost as good as when you started talking about looking at facts!

Air&Road 11-16-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 2829107)
Oh, the extreme irony! Almost as good as when you started talking about looking at facts!


You mean facts like all of the things considered to be bad by the left, that would NOT have taken place had Slick Willy had enough character to not commit adultery and purjory?

When writing the above paragraph something popped in my head. I remember very well in a debate between George HW Bush and Clinton. George pointed to Bill Clinton and pointed out that "this man has no character." Well Slick proved GHW correct!

tjts1 11-16-2011 01:08 PM

Call me when Larry is done trying to pull another character assassination on Newt. Some people have no moral compass. How do you face yourself in the mirror?
:dark:

tbomachines 11-16-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829109)
You mean facts like all of the things considered to be bad by the left, that would NOT have taken place had Slick Willy had enough character to not commit adultery and purjory?

No, those would not be facts, that would be speculation.

Air&Road 11-16-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 2829114)
No, those would not be facts, that would be speculation.


Come on TBO! You are WAY smarter than this. Did you read all the posts that led up to this?

IF, and it's a big if, the FBI did indeed drop the ball on Al Qaeda because they were chasing Lewinski's dress, and Slick had not committed adultery with her, then why in the world would they have been chasing the dress? Please don't tell me you can't understand this!

Botnst 11-16-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulC (Post 2828992)
That sounds like something that a Tea Party troll would say. Recall the last year of the Bush administration? Are those the good old days that you wish to see return?

Funny how you edited out Larry's question mark and inserted a period, thus changing his question of equivalence to a statement of fact AND attributing it to him. Do you think that is fair?

Air&Road 11-16-2011 01:19 PM

Okay, it's time for me to be fair to PaulC.

I THINK that I noticed the mistake of not putting a question mark at the end of that sentence, went and corrected it, and at about the same time he made the quote.

I write in haste and revise in liesure. The liesure time often comes after I have submitted the post.

My bad and I apologize.

Botnst 11-16-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2829116)
Funny how you edited out Larry's question mark and inserted a period, thus changing his question of equivalence to a statement of fact AND attributing it to him. Do you think that is fair?

Larry's comment cleared this up. I apologize for the unwarranted conclusion.

Air&Road 11-16-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulC (Post 2828992)
That sounds like something that a Tea Party troll would say. Recall the last year of the Bush administration? Are those the good old days that you wish to see return?


Yes, I would like to see those years back due to the great things done during that period by the REPUBLICAN congress of the time. Slick was in a great position to take credit for them and I've never seen him turn down an opportunity to take credit for anything.

I will give Slick credit, however, for moving to the center after his first few years once he had a Republican congress. Had he not, he would have been a one term President.

Air&Road 11-16-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2829122)
Larry's comment cleared this up. I apologize for the unwarranted conclusion.


No harm, no foul. It was my fault.

tbomachines 11-16-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829115)
Come on TBO! You are WAY smarter than this. Did you read all the posts that led up to this?

IF, and it's a big if, the FBI did indeed drop the ball on Al Qaeda because they were chasing Lewinski's dress, and Slick had not committed adultery with her, then why in the world would they have been chasing the dress? Please don't tell me you can't understand this!

Yes, I understand your chain of events all leading back to Bill Clinton being a bad person. However, you are not separating facts from speculation. Someone mentioned it in this thread ("I read somewhere..."), certainly does not bring it out of that realm. My comment about facts, common-sense, and logic was off-the-cuff if you will, not necessarily related to this specific instance.

tbomachines 11-16-2011 01:37 PM

Btw, I thought we were trashing Newt? Larry you've gone off topic! :D:D

Air&Road 11-16-2011 01:49 PM

TBO! Stay with me here! You have always shown extreme intelligence until your inability to keep up in this thread.

In the OP I indicated that I would supply the thread and you guys can supply the trash. I did my job in the OP.

Pooka 11-16-2011 02:20 PM

I don't think we will have to wait for anyone to trash Newt. It looks like Newt started doing this today.

With all the attention being paid to 'Washington Outsiders', and some Republicans claiming that is who they want, Newt proclaimed today that he is the ultimate Washington Insider and that only he knows what is necessary to change the way things are done in DC.

He was addressing this point while defending his fee of $1,600,000 for 'historical advice' he gave to Freddie Mac that folks at Freddie Mac are saying he never provided. They thought they were hiring someone to lobby Republicans for them; someone who could convince Republicans to not look at them with too close an eye.

But since Newt is not registered as a Lobbyist he cannot act as one. So if Newt is correct he was paid for giving historical background to Freddie. If the execs are right it appears Newt has committed a felony.

I am sure this will all be sorted out in the future.

tbomachines 11-16-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829165)
TBO! Stay with me here! You have always shown extreme intelligence until your inability to keep up in this thread.

In the OP I indicated that I would supply the thread and you guys can supply the trash. I did my job in the OP.

Its not an inability to keep up, its me leaving the thread mostly alone because I don't really have any reason to trash Newt. My objections are in policy and policy alone - on the whole, I couldn't give a rats ass about what these guys do in their sexual endeavors as long as they prove good leaders. If anything, the power-hungry personalities often contribute to their infidelity. I couldn't care less what their high school grades were, who their past girlfriends were, and who may have had class with them in college. Its all simply a diversion from the true policy discussions going on (or rather, not going on). Case in point, I'd vote "slick willy" into office without much hesitation. Newt is a pretty smart guy, I'd like to see him and Obama in a debate. As far as intelligence goes, I highly doubt such a large portion of our intelligence forces were diverted to "chasing down the dress" so to speak. I would truly like to see FACTS regarding this rather than speculation. Actually IIRC we had OBL in our gun sights at one point and a military commander called it off last minute (would have been a PR nightmare).

And yes, if Bill had kept his pants zipped up, he would not have been able to have sex with anyone. The issue was blown out of proportion by media and the GOP trying to oust him. He shouldn't have lied on the stand though, I don't think anyone is arguing that point. IMO if he just admitted it, it would have been swept under the carpet a LOT sooner (obviously GOP would cling to it if they had any sense though).

Air&Road 11-16-2011 02:32 PM

All well put!

Yes, Slick and Tricky Dick both learned that the hard way. Fortunately for Slick, the morality of the US had gone through such drastic decay in those 18 years or whatever it was, that it was much easier for Slick.

elchivito 11-16-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829100)
Very Good! You should follow suit!

It's good to know you really did mean what I thought you meant. If you'd like, I'll continue to help you clarify your points.

Honus 11-16-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines (Post 2829200)
...IMO if he just admitted it, it would have been swept under the carpet a LOT sooner (obviously GOP would cling to it if they had any sense though).

The GOP didn't allow anything they had on Clinton to be swept under the rug. They began pursuing him before he even took office. Ken Starr had been investigating him for 3-1/2 years before he ever heard of Monica Lewinsky. The GOP's conduct was a disgrace.

PaulC 11-16-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2829122)
Larry's comment cleared this up. I apologize for the unwarranted conclusion.

Jesus, Bot! I may be a troll, but I do have some principles!:D

elchivito 11-16-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus (Post 2829213)
The GOP didn't allow anything they had on Clinton to be swept under the rug. They began pursuing him before he even took office. Ken Starr had been investigating him for 3-1/2 years before he ever heard of Monica Lewinsky. The GOP's conduct was a disgrace.

Something they seem to do quite well.

Pooka 11-16-2011 05:14 PM

M. Bachmann just started trashing Newt for 'Shilling' for Freddie Mac.

She said a lot of ugly things about him which I am sure you can find on line if you are really interested in her opinions.

Skippy 11-16-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pooka (Post 2829336)
M. Bachmann just started trashing Newt for 'Shilling' for Freddie Mac.

She said a lot of ugly things about him which I am sure you can find on line if you are really interested in her opinions.

Not so much. I'm very disappointed in the current crop of Republican presidential candidates. I'll most likely caucus for Ron Paul, even though I think he's gotten wackier since the last time he ran.

Pooka 11-17-2011 11:38 AM

More Newt trashing....

Jack Abramoff is now saying terrible things about Newt. A quick online search should turn up his comments and a bit of history on Jack and what he is currently up to.

So far I can't find any Democrats trashing Newt, but then, with the other Republicans doing such a good job of it do they really need to?

JollyRoger 11-17-2011 11:41 AM

Newt has touched the third rail of Right Wing Nut Jobbery: Freddie and Fannie. Either he's toast or they are going to be eating a lot of crow.

Honus 11-17-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pooka (Post 2829725)
...So far I can't find any Democrats trashing Newt, but then, with the other Republicans doing such a good job of it do they really need to?

Don't go by me, but I would think that the best strategy is to wait to see whether Newt rises further in the polls before unloading on him. He has such a long and f-ed up record, I have little doubt that the Dems can blow him out of the water, but they should wait at least until GOP voters get invested in him. Seems like that would take some more wind out of their sails.

I have no idea what I'm talking about on this stuff, but that's the way I see it.

flymehomenow 11-17-2011 05:27 PM

PaulC.... I am 54. As for Obama and his cronies, what about the racism and name calling his political cronies are doing to the Reps. Remember, that Obama has visited 57 states, maybe he is also counting Kenya and Indonesia.
Memorial Day he welcomed the dead heroes that he saw in the crowd. How about the mentioning of Marine "Corpse Men" that he repeated several times. What gives all of you the right to bash Newt? As for Freddie & Frannie; hey, they hired him and his firm. Good or bad, How's Freddie & Frannie working out with our money?

Jorn 11-17-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by flymehomenow (Post 2829902)
PaulC.... I am 54. As for Obama and his cronies, what about the racism and name calling his political cronies are doing to the Reps. Remember, that Obama has visited 57 states, maybe he is also counting Kenya and Indonesia.
Memorial Day he welcomed the dead heroes that he saw in the crowd. How about the mentioning of Marine "Corpse Men" that he repeated several times. What gives all of you the right to bash Newt? As for Freddie & Frannie; hey, they hired him and his firm. Good or bad, How's Freddie & Frannie working out with our money?

Those poor Reps.

JollyRoger 11-18-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by flymehomenow (Post 2829902)
PaulC.... I am 54. As for Obama and his cronies, what about the racism and name calling his political cronies are doing to the Reps. Remember, that Obama has visited 57 states, maybe he is also counting Kenya and Indonesia.
Memorial Day he welcomed the dead heroes that he saw in the crowd. How about the mentioning of Marine "Corpse Men" that he repeated several times. What gives all of you the right to bash Newt? As for Freddie & Frannie; hey, they hired him and his firm. Good or bad, How's Freddie & Frannie working out with our money?

What a pile of crap.

PaulC 11-18-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flymehomenow (Post 2829902)
PaulC.... I am 54. As for Obama and his cronies, what about the racism and name calling his political cronies are doing to the Reps. Remember, that Obama has visited 57 states, maybe he is also counting Kenya and Indonesia.
Memorial Day he welcomed the dead heroes that he saw in the crowd. How about the mentioning of Marine "Corpse Men" that he repeated several times. What gives all of you the right to bash Newt? As for Freddie & Frannie; hey, they hired him and his firm. Good or bad, How's Freddie & Frannie working out with our money?

Hey I like Newt! Larry Bible, who started this thread, has a problem with him!

Air&Road 11-18-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2830232)
What a pile of crap.


Yeah, the truth hurts doesn't it. If you don't believe what he wrote about B.O.'s misspeaks, I have a You Tube with those and even more if you would like to see it.

Mike Murrell 11-18-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulC (Post 2829018)
(I'm leaving, I'm out of here, no, I really mean it, I'm leaving!)

Can't wait for Larry 3.0...


Similar thing happened on the tech forum at this site.

He was once "Larry Bible" - then returned as "LarryBible"

The 1000s of "Larry Bible" threads...mostly tech are now gone????

Air&Road 11-18-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Murrell (Post 2830375)
Similar thing happened on the tech forum at this site.

He was once "Larry Bible" - then returned as "LarryBible"

The 1000s of "Larry Bible" threads...mostly tech are now gone????

I was never Larry Bible on here. I was LarryBible then as now. edit: They removed my profile about 10 months ago at my request. When I came back my old threads still existed under guest.

After reading this thread I was surprised to see that at least one of my threads as guest is gone. It had a sticky at the top of Diesel Discussion but is now gone.

I suppose my technical contributions were determined to be worthless, or maybe the new management took some measures regarding them. Maybe they're trying to tell me something. At any rate, I am not the one that did away with them.

Pooka 11-18-2011 03:54 PM

How did thread become about Larry? Did I miss something?

I mean, if we are through trashing Newt, which, in my opinion, never gets old, then are we supposed to....what; start trashing Larry?

We could always start trashing my sentence structures.

Mike Murrell 11-18-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2830472)
I was never Larry Bible on here.

Never said you were.

You were "Larry Bible" when you were Mr. Icon on the tech forum.

tonkovich 11-18-2011 04:51 PM

I'm still confused. Larry likes Newt Gingrich? Larry dislikes Newt Gingrich?

Larry: you still haven't explained how Vietnam was a threat to the United States, from about 195o, when we started to fund the French, til about 1975, when Saigon "fell". Having been alive from 1962 onwards, I don't recall any Vietnamese invading the country. Is there something i missed? Or, was Ho Chi Minh really just a nationalist, trying to remove invaders from his country? One is reminded, that, in the late 1970's "red China" invaded Vietnam; the Vietnamese eventually fought back and removed the Chinese. hardly the act of a submissive "domino" of "communist" imperialism, no?

10fords 11-18-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich (Post 2830519)
I'm still confused. Larry likes Newt Gingrich? Larry dislikes Newt Gingrich?

Larry: you still haven't explained how Vietnam was a threat to the United States, from about 195o, when we started to fund the French, til about 1975, when Saigon "fell". Having been alive from 1962 onwards, I don't recall any Vietnamese invading the country. Is there something i missed? Or, was Ho Chi Minh really just a nationalist, trying to remove invaders from his country? One is reminded, that, in the late 1970's "red China" invaded Vietnam; the Vietnamese eventually fought back and removed the Chinese. hardly the act of a submissive "domino" of "communist" imperialism, no?

Holy crap!! :eek:Tonk got the "Shift" key fixed on his keyboard! :D

Air&Road 11-19-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Murrell (Post 2830493)
Never said you were.

You were "Larry Bible" when you were Mr. Icon on the tech forum.

I was never Larry bible I was always LARRYBIBLE. Work on your reading skills.

cmac2012 11-19-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible (Post 2829025)
Yes, the last year of the Bush administration was indeed bad news. The results of Dodd/Frank came home to roost. That was the beginning of the end. GW fell for the TARP, and then BO took us much deeper into new low's, or high's if you would rather measure it in National Debt terms.

It is tragic, isn't it, the way the Bush presidency was derailed at the last minute by nefarious democrats. He was so close to immortality.


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