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JollyRoger 12-27-2011 01:34 PM

The Wrecking Ball
 
Peter Beinart: How Ron Paul Will Change the GOP in 2012 - The Daily Beast

Quote:

There are certainly Republicans out there who support the Bush-Cheney neo-imperialist foreign policy vision. But they’re split among the top tier presidential candidates. Paul has the isolationists all to himself. Moreover, his two top opponents—Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich—not only back a big-government foreign policy agenda, but have periodically backed a big-government domestic agenda as well. In other words, they personify the argument at the heart of Paul’s campaign: that if you love a powerful Pentagon, you’ll end up loving other parts of the government bureaucracy as well.
Depending on one's view, Ron Paul is either here to save, or destroy the GOP........

elchivito 12-27-2011 01:45 PM

Do I gotta change bumper stickers AGAIN??

dynalow 12-27-2011 02:47 PM

Win or place, after Iowa, he'll fall farther, faster than Howard Dean.
Yeaaaaarrrgghh!!!!:rolleyes:

Stoney 12-27-2011 03:56 PM

Ron Paul's Website reads like..
 
a Supermarket Tabloid!

Fake satellite photos of "government conspiracy" and info from "undercover sources".

He recently posted a faked picture of an airfield in FLA packed with UN Relief Trucks that was such a cheap Photoshop job I had to laugh!

He smacks of Larouche and company. who will be his running mate? Winston Smith from 1984?

The Clk Man 12-27-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dynalow (Post 2853877)
Win or place, after Iowa, he'll fall farther, faster than Howard Dean.
Yeaaaaarrrgghh!!!!:rolleyes:

As I was reading that word, it sounded just like Howard Dean in my mind. :)

Jim B. 12-27-2011 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynalow (Post 2853877)
Win or place, after Iowa, he'll fall farther, faster than Howard Dean.
Yeaaaaarrrgghh!!!!:rolleyes:


Howard Dean for President - YouTube


Yeaaaaarrrgghh!!!! :D

Ara T. 12-27-2011 04:44 PM

Byaaah! Howard Dean - Dave Chappelle (original & complete) - YouTube hahaha

JollyRoger 12-27-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynalow (Post 2853877)
Win or place, after Iowa, he'll fall farther, faster than Howard Dean.
Yeaaaaarrrgghh!!!!:rolleyes:

I wouldn't be too sure about that:

Iowa: Who will survive? - Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

....

engatwork 12-27-2011 04:57 PM

I've always thought that Romney and Gingrich were more of the same.

JollyRoger 12-27-2011 05:00 PM

You mean Flip and Flop? It's hard to tell them apart.

dynalow 12-27-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 2853924)

Was that mushroom cloud Dean's head exploding??
:confused::D:D:D


From this...........


By autumn of 2003, Dean had become the apparent front-runner for the Democratic nomination, performing strongly in most polls. Generally regarded as a pragmatic centrist during his time as governor, Dean emerged during his presidential campaign as something of a populist, denouncing the policies of the Bush administration (especially the 2003 invasion of Iraq) as well as fellow Democrats, who, in his view, failed to strongly oppose them.

During his presidential campaign, right wing critics labeled Dean's political views as those of an extreme liberal; however, in liberal Vermont, Dean, long known as a staunch advocate of fiscal restraint, was regarded as a moderate. Many left-wing critics who supported fellow Democrat Dennis Kucinich or independent Ralph Nader charged that, at heart, Dean was a "Rockefeller Republican"—socially liberal, while fiscally conservative[citation needed].

..............To this

(In Iowa)......After all votes were tallied, John Kerry received 38% of the votes, John Edwards received 32%, Howard Dean received 18%, and Richard Gephardt received 11%.

After poor showings, Gephardt dropped out of the race.[12] Kerry and Edwards claimed newfound momentum, while Dean attempted to down-play the results.

During the New Hampshire Primary, John Kerry was able to defeat Howard Dean once again, beating him 38%-26%. The final debate before the primary, was held at Saint Anselm College; Kerry's performance was superior to the others, helping him win the New Hampshire primary a few days later.[13] Kerry carried nearly all constituencies during the primary according to Exit Polling Data..............

Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2004 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dr. Paul, meet Dr. Dean.

Come to think of it, it's said Doctors make poor businessmen. Perhaps they make poor politicians too. Or presidential candidates, at the very least.;)

dynalow 12-27-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2853938)

Gallup has him at about 8-10% among Republicans. Where's he going with that? 3rd party run? I don't see the $$ support forthcoming & he's no Ross Perot, is he? Wouldn't think so, needing to sell newspapers, errr, newsletters during his medical career.:confused:

JollyRoger 12-27-2011 05:14 PM

George Washington was known as a big believer that a small, disciplined force was more valuable for achieving victory than a large undisciplined army. Paul heeds his words. As a person who has lived in Ron Paul's district for the last twenty years or so, I can guarantee you he has the most organized and passionate group of supporters in the race, and in a fractured race, that is worth a great deal. The point of the article is that while he will not win, he will enter the convention with quite a number of delegates, and his views will then demand a seat at the table. If he does not get one, the GOP will pay dearly when he runs third party on the Lib ticket. It's is time for the GOP to take him seriously, or pay the price.

MagnumPI 12-27-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dynalow (Post 2853955)
Gallup has him at about 8-10% among Republicans. Where's he going with that? 3rd party run? I don't see the $$ support forthcoming & he's no Ross Perot, is he? Wouldn't think so, needing to sell newspapers, errr, newsletters during his medical career.:confused:

He just raised $4 million in one weekend, 2 weeks ago.:confused:

dynalow 12-27-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumPI (Post 2853972)
He just raised $4 million in one weekend, 2 weeks ago.:confused:

And Obama's goal is 1 billion.:eek:
Beer money in comparison.


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