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Old 12-30-2011, 09:53 PM
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getting excited about new shop, need help with some DIY's

shop walls are up and will grout and hang beams next week. I would like to do as much of the finishing as I can. would like to hear some opinions on options for some things and then maybe get some DIY help on some of the finishes.

my plan is to densify the concrete floor, no polish or colors, just smooth and hard with no staining. any thoughts on brands, other options besides densifying?

I want to get a new line and a meter, will the power co allow a second meter? what about an all generator solution?

I want to stucco the outside of the walls, any help here would be appreciated.

I want to spray foam insulate the inside of the steel roof, other options? Is this a DIY operation? seems to be about the same money just to get it done.

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Old 12-30-2011, 10:04 PM
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Good idea on a simple concrete floor. If you wish then later you can put tiles down, or epoxy coat or such. Or just keep it simple.

If it were me I would avoid stucco like the plague. Why do you want to stucco the outside for? Just painting the block with a good quality paint would look nice enough I think.

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Old 12-30-2011, 10:19 PM
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Good idea on a simple concrete floor. If you wish then later you can put tiles down, or epoxy coat or such. Or just keep it simple.

If it were me I would avoid stucco like the plague. Why do you want to stucco the outside for? Just painting the block with a good quality paint would look nice enough I think.

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stucco seems to hold up pretty good here, what are your concerns? It rains half the year so good water repellant is a must or the inside will be a swamp humidity wise
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:49 AM
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My garage in Ohio has separate service from the power company...different meter than the house. Mine has 200 amp service, which is plenty to power the machines I have installed there. Your power company will have no problems with your request, as long as you're willing to pay for it.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:45 AM
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I want to get a new line and a meter, will the power co allow a second meter?
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When Ga Pwr ran the service to my shop I had to pay an extra $750 to have them bury it versus running overhead.
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...If it were me I would avoid stucco like the plague...
I disagree. Stucco seems like a great choice for this masonry building.
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Spray Foam insulation

Spray Foam work requires specific equipment and is not for the DIY'er.

Sub it out.

Get someone who can supply the purple type 2 element foam that is water proof, vermin proof and sticks like stink.
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:05 AM
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Garagejournal.com has a ton of threads on everything you'd wonder about your new garage. I spend some time there checking out new build threads and what members are doing for their new garages/shops.
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My garage in Ohio has separate service from the power company...different meter than the house. Mine has 200 amp service, which is plenty to power the machines I have installed there. Your power company will have no problems with your request, as long as you're willing to pay for it.

awesome thanx. I already pay for two light poles along my drive in the front. I was thinking I will ask them to add another light pole and then drop a line down to the building from there. My neighbor likes the idea of a light pole too. Eventually I hope to have the roof covered with solar cells and sell power back to TECO
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Old 12-31-2011, 12:07 PM
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Garagejournal.com has a ton of threads on everything you'd wonder about your new garage. I spend some time there checking out new build threads and what members are doing for their new garages/shops.

nice site, I joined over there as well. thanx
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stucco seems to hold up pretty good here, what are your concerns? It rains half the year so good water repellant is a must or the inside will be a swamp humidity wise
My concern with stucco is that every house here is splattered with the stuff and I regard it as a thoroughly crap method of finishing. I've just spent months going around my house fixing cracks, house is less than ten years old. Maybe they do it different there, which is quite possible as the construction quality here is the worst I have ever seen. Also putting it directly on a block wall may be a better base than the styrofoam-chickenwire they splatter it over here. Is there not a better method of waterproofing though? How about smooth plaster?

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Old 12-31-2011, 05:49 PM
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CMU Waterproofing

Give a look at SIKA USA, a major German firm that sells a myriad of products that can be used to waterproof masonry.

Top coated with a good latex or acrylic paint, this should do the trick and it can be done by a DIY'er.

Protective Impregnations & Coatings

I would look at Sikaproof Seal. I have specified this on several CMU and Brick Masonry structures that were exposed to high levels of rain/moisture and there was no impregnation of the Masonry substrate after 5 years exposure.

It is a roll on product but can be sprayed as well. Unless you have a controlled enclosure, I would recommend roll on application.

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Old 12-31-2011, 06:22 PM
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I hate stucco as well. I prefer proper siding or something other than stucco.
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Are you having a grand opening party? I'll drive my wagon....
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I would say to forget the generator idea. Unless you have absolutely free fuel, it costs quite a bit more to generate your own power due to the inefficiency of a small generator, and then you have maintenance cost on the generator. And the capital cost of a generator will pay for a lot of kWh.

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