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Old 02-16-2012, 11:56 AM
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Virginia Lege mandates that pregnant women seeking abortion be sexually assaulted

Is there no end to the madness of the far right? Clinical rape now?

Virginia Mandates

They seem to have no problem with "government mandates" here, in fact, they now have taken it to the point of legalized government rape. Madness.

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Old 02-16-2012, 12:06 PM
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on the one hand, the people scream for more government controls and regulation. Then, when the regulators begin to regulate even the most intimate details of our lives, the people complain. Can't have it both ways.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:08 PM
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Holy 'government intrusion' Batman!

The hypocrisy here is breathtaking. The GOP is against government mandates, except when it comes to forcing a women to undergo being raped by government order.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:13 PM
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The right to lifers are quietly tiptoeing out of the room right now.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:18 PM
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just read the comments below the article and I can't stop laughing. This is going to unleash a firestorm of controversy.
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Apparantly minor details of the truth...

is of no consequence to the left. Reading the whole article will enlighten one to the real truth of the valid medical needs and intentions and yet the article is still full of leftwing spin.

Here's a couple of quotes- "Not that valid medical reasons for transvaginal ultrasounds don’t exist."

"The ultrasound requirement may evoke images of the abdominal sonograms standard in most pregnancies, fuzzy black and white pictures conjured by a wand passed across a woman’s stomach.
But those ultrasounds are ordinarily done fairly late in pregnancy. In the beginning, particularly the first weeks, an abdominal ultrasound may not be sensitive enough to detect anything."

"That’s why doctors in many cases use a transvaginal ultrasound. In plainspeak, they insert a condom-covered probe into a woman’s vagina to obtain an image."

So before going of on some left wing rant, learn to tell the whole truth. Not put some spin on it that suits you.

So if you expect to, maybe get the taxpayers to pay for abortions, you can expect there to be some rules applied that may require some valid medical examines.

Once you have your medical degree in obstetrics, then I will be much more inclined to listen to your qualified opinions, untill then, try to tell the WHOLE Truth.

Keep in mind abortion is still murder. If you doubt it, think about this, if a crime is commited, or a traffic accident claims the life of a pregnant woman, not one but two counts of murder or manslaugther are charged. That clearly means that an unborn child is still considered a human life and it is murder to kill it.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:54 PM
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Angry U.S. out of uterus!!!!

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is of no consequence to the left. Reading the whole article will enlighten one to the real truth of the valid medical needs and intentions and yet the article is still full of leftwing spin.

Here's a couple of quotes- "Not that valid medical reasons for transvaginal ultrasounds don’t exist."

"The ultrasound requirement may evoke images of the abdominal sonograms standard in most pregnancies, fuzzy black and white pictures conjured by a wand passed across a woman’s stomach.
But those ultrasounds are ordinarily done fairly late in pregnancy. In the beginning, particularly the first weeks, an abdominal ultrasound may not be sensitive enough to detect anything."

"That’s why doctors in many cases use a transvaginal ultrasound. In plainspeak, they insert a condom-covered probe into a woman’s vagina to obtain an image."

So before going of on some left wing rant, learn to tell the whole truth. Not put some spin on it that suits you.

So if you expect to, maybe get the taxpayers to pay for abortions, you can expect there to be some rules applied that may require some valid medical examines.

Once you have your medical degree in obstetrics, then I will be much more inclined to listen to your qualified opinions, untill then, try to tell the WHOLE Truth.

Keep in mind abortion is still murder. If you doubt it, think about this, if a crime is commited, or a traffic accident claims the life of a pregnant woman, not one but two counts of murder or manslaugther are charged. That clearly means that an unborn child is still considered a human life and it is murder to kill it.
Then how come there are no funerals for the fetus?
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Ok, thanks for that clarification. The rape is necessary because a normal ultrasound won't work. I'm greatly relieved with that justification.

If my limited legal knowledge is functioning correctly, you're wrong about the murder charge when it comes to a fetus.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:58 PM
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Then how come there are no funerals for the fetus?
Of that a fetus can be deemed an heir to an estate before birth . . . or is subject to any taxes on pre-birth income generated?

Survey of State Laws Regarding Fetal Homicide
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Once you have your medical degree in obstetrics, then I will be much more inclined to listen to your qualified opinions, untill then, try to tell the WHOLE Truth.

Keep in mind abortion is still murder. If you doubt it, think about this, if a crime is commited, or a traffic accident claims the life of a pregnant woman, not one but two counts of murder or manslaugther are charged. That clearly means that an unborn child is still considered a human life and it is murder to kill it.
Holy smokes, that only took one sentence to turn around! So how about that whole truth thing?! Its only considered murder or manslaughter when the fetus is past the point of viability...i.e. late term. You can't get an abortion then either.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:21 PM
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is of no consequence to the left. Reading the whole article will enlighten one to the real truth of the valid medical needs and intentions and yet the article is still full of leftwing spin.

Here's a couple of quotes- "Not that valid medical reasons for transvaginal ultrasounds don’t exist."

"The ultrasound requirement may evoke images of the abdominal sonograms standard in most pregnancies, fuzzy black and white pictures conjured by a wand passed across a woman’s stomach.
But those ultrasounds are ordinarily done fairly late in pregnancy. In the beginning, particularly the first weeks, an abdominal ultrasound may not be sensitive enough to detect anything."

"That’s why doctors in many cases use a transvaginal ultrasound. In plainspeak, they insert a condom-covered probe into a woman’s vagina to obtain an image."

So before going of on some left wing rant, learn to tell the whole truth. Not put some spin on it that suits you.

So if you expect to, maybe get the taxpayers to pay for abortions, you can expect there to be some rules applied that may require some valid medical examines.

Once you have your medical degree in obstetrics, then I will be much more inclined to listen to your qualified opinions, untill then, try to tell the WHOLE Truth.

Keep in mind abortion is still murder. If you doubt it, think about this, if a crime is commited, or a traffic accident claims the life of a pregnant woman, not one but two counts of murder or manslaugther are charged. That clearly means that an unborn child is still considered a human life and it is murder to kill it.
In other words, you are in favor of women being raped in a clinical procedure performed against their will....
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:35 PM
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Of that a fetus can be deemed an heir to an estate before birth . . . or is subject to any taxes on pre-birth income generated?

Survey of State Laws Regarding Fetal Homicide
So if a pregnant woman holds up a liquor store, can the fetus be held legally accountable as an accomplice?
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is of no consequence to the left. Reading the whole article will enlighten one to the real truth of the valid medical needs and intentions and yet the article is still full of leftwing spin.
This is not a right/left debate; this a religious zealot/the rest of the population debate.
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This is not a right/left debate; this a religious zealot/the rest of the population debate.
Very true, particularly on this forum.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:48 PM
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So if a pregnant woman holds up a liquor store, can the fetus be held legally accountable as an accomplice?
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