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Old 03-24-2012, 06:24 PM
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there appears to be a few black folk out there who feel that whitey is to blame for their problems. their solution? gasoline and a match.
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Old 03-24-2012, 06:30 PM
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Absolutely. Where's the KKK when you need them?
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You are making my point for me. And I guess it is okay with you since nobody died, just severely burned. My only agenda is to point out the hypocrisy of those who use race when it fits their purpose, but to ignore it when it doesn't. I am not aware of any incident where a white person who was a victim of black racism has gotten any personal attention from Obama, but there are several examples of his involvement when a black person has allegedly been a victim of racism. Personally I don't think it is in his job description to be involved in these things, and he only does it to further divide us as a nation, and distract people from the real issues he is failing at as a leader.
No, you're missing the point and making poor comparisons. In Florida, the police didn't arrest anyone, or even perform a drug or sobriety test on the shooter, despite there being a fatality, while they DID perform a drug test on the deceased victim. The police, during the 911 call, directed the shooter to STOP following the victim yet he persisted.

In Kansas City <>, the police are still seeking the perpetrators, the father says he's not sure if it's racial, and the "severe" burns are peeling skin and singed hair.


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The boy began struggling over the gas can, which fell, spilling gas, according to the report. A youth then lit the gas, which flashed into a fireball, burning the 13-year-old’s face and singeing his hair, the report said.
On Monday, the boy’s father said his son is doing well. He said the skin is peeling on his son’s nose and he suffered a burn injury in his nostrils and upper lip.
Because the attackers are black and the burned youth is white, some media outlets have reported the incident as a possible hate crime. However, Kansas City police have said since the incident first was reported that they do not think it was a hate crime.
The boy’s father said Monday that whatever the motive, no one had the right to harm his son. “I don’t know whether it was racial or not,” the father said. “But it was wrong.”


That's it. I commend the father for not making it a racial incident if it wasn't one. To counter your point - the media DID say it was racial in Kansas City <> at outset, where in Florida they did NOT say it was racial at the outset. Where's the bias? Kansas City: injured white victim, immediately labelled hate crime by media. Florida: dead black victim, immediately labelled self-defense by police, unquestioned by media.
Police investigate burning of 13-year-old boy - KansasCity.com


And you do realize the second link you posted was from 2009, don't you? Did you go searching for "white children set on fire" or something? How is a two and half-year old story comparable? There's no mention of race in the story. He was attacked by his friends. He appeared on TV (Good Morning America). He got a trust fund set up for his injuries.

You want race?
Blond, green-eyed youth survives horrific burns, goes on TV and gets trust fund. Police arrest five teens and charge with murder.
Black, hoodied youth is shot and killed by adult male after police tell him to stop; police question shooter but don't refer case to Grand Jury until media outcry. No arrests to date.

Do you see the difference? White victims: arrests, claims of hate crime by blacks - you even imply fake black perpetrators in the second scenario. Black victim: self-defense, no arrests.

Obama (is he one of "the usual suspects" to which you refer?) didn't direct the Justice Department to investigate. The local Florida officials REQUESTED it. He responded to questions about it, he didn't volunteer statements. You're spinning the facts to fit your anti-Obama bias. And I have to assume, based on your efforts in this thread, that your bias isn't based on his political party or economic policies.
I will agree with you: "What is truly disgusting about these incidents is that the loss of a human life is being used to further an agenda, and further divide us." Only it's not how you intended it.

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Old 03-25-2012, 12:27 AM
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You are making my point for me. And I guess it is okay with you since nobody died, just severely burned. My only agenda is to point out the hypocrisy of those who use race when it fits their purpose, but to ignore it when it doesn't. I am not aware of any incident where a white person who was a victim of black racism has gotten any personal attention from Obama, but there are several examples of his involvement when a black person has allegedly been a victim of racism. Personally I don't think it is in his job description to be involved in these things, and he only does it to further divide us as a nation, and distract people from the real issues he is failing at as a leader.
There are, of course, a unfortunately large number of dysfunctional and criminal African Americans out and about. As a percentage of the black population, it isn't too large but it's true that black criminals exist.

Both incidents are horrible. The big difference is the apparent slap on the wrist that Zimmerman received with the cops almost treating him like one of their own.

The Martin killing has become a national issue with some relevance to our culture. Obama's remarks were appropriate.

"I think all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happen. And that means that we examine the laws and the context for what happened.

"And I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together - federal, state and local - to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened."
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Yak is right on all accounts.

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Yak is right on all accounts.

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In St Louis, the police are still seeking the perpetrators, the father says he's not sure if it's racial, and the "severe" burns are peeling skin and singed hair.


That's it. I commend the father for not making it a racial incident if it wasn't one.
"They rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open," Coon told KMBC. "(One of them) poured the gasoline, then flicked the Bic, and said, 'This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy."

Who cares what the father or the press say? They were not first hand witnesses to the event. The racial motivation comes straight from the lips of the perpetrators.
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:18 PM
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"They rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open," Coon told KMBC. "(One of them) poured the gasoline, then flicked the Bic, and said, 'This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy."

Who cares what the father or the press say? They were not first hand witnesses to the event. The racial motivation comes straight from the lips of the perpetrators.
Was it racial motivation or just an epithet?

When they burn black kids, they probably say "you get what you deserve nigga"
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:22 PM
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Was it racial motivation or just an epithet?

When they burn black kids, they probably say "you get what you deserve nigga"
either way the statements seem to imply SOMETHING to do with race. Why not say, "you get what you deserve, jerk, a**hole, loser, etc." ???

They use racial terminology because race is the motivating factor behind the attack.
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:28 PM
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either way the statements seem to imply SOMETHING to do with race. Why not say, "you get what you deserve, jerk, a**hole, loser, etc." ???

They use racial terminology because race is the motivating factor behind the attack.
I doubt your race being a motivateing factor..and write it off to the guy simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Damn I am thinking about coming back to visit the states next month after a 2 year abscense...I gotta come back to this crap?
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:36 PM
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I doubt your race being a motivateing factor..and write it off to the guy simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Damn I am thinking about coming back to visit the states next month after a 2 year abscense...I gotta come back to this crap?
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I doubt your race being a motivateing factor..and write it off to the guy simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Damn I am thinking about coming back to visit the states next month after a 2 year abscense...I gotta come back to this crap?
"They rushed him on the porch as he tried to get the door open," Coon told KMBC. "(One of them) poured the gasoline, then flicked the Bic, and said, 'This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy.'

Correct, we can toss out the perpetrator's statement as a non-issue.

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