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Greenpeace
Anyone been approached by them? A couple of days ago I was leaving an REI store and I was approached by a "recruiter." She was trying to get new members, and membership is $15 a month or it could be annually, don't remember. WE eneded up talking quite a bit. I told her that I think GP has noble intentions, but I don't agree with some of it's methods and tactics in getting their message across. I later met up with a friend and yold him about my exchange. He said that the CEO makes over $200k a year and that their execs make around that much--all from donations. THis is a non-profit organization. Plus, he asked why are they at an REI store and not at other places where people may not be aware of saving the environment. REI tends to have wealthy people going in there (I'm not, was just window shopping) and most care about the environment and know all about sustainable living to do something at an individual level. That's how I felt, I told her that I don't feel a need to join an organization or a movement to make an impact.
Is GP still pretty militant in their ways? And is it true their execs make 6-figure salaries? |
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sounds about right there's another group like them too, the name escapes me at the moment but they lost a ship near the south pole not too long ago
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Was she hot? I told my recruiter to piss off because it was a guy and I wasn't interested in making time with him. Of course you market to the people who have money and thus influence. Why pick on the bum on the street? Makes no commercial sense. WGAS what he thinks when he doesn't have influence or money to back up what he says? So what if they do? Why does it bother anyone that a charitable institute has a CEO that makes money? I wouldn't work for them unless they paid the going rate of a person of my stature so why would I expect someone to get paid less and do the same work?
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And, no, she wasn't smoking hot, but I found her to be an attractive middle-age woman. In no way was I being argumentive with her. It was a pleasant talk and nothing more. |
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TTIWWP. Personally, I don't really care for their tactics.
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"Militant" is probably accurate, but I am not sure why that is a bad thing. |
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Honus, how reliable is that BBB report? The info was submitted by GP.
I think when tactics involve vandalism and disrupting other people's lives, then I don't think that's a good thing. |
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I don't know why it would be a bad thing unless it was done to you, would you? Would YOU allow me to take offense at something you are doing and be militant about it? If we allowed everyone to take militant action because they felt their needs weren't addressed, well, you think we have chaos now, you ain't seen nuttin yet.
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Some think that because they like a certain cause or agency, it is ok for them to bend the rules or even break them. As mentioned, until someone else is allowed to do it to them and/or everyone is allowed to do it.
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They're sort of PETA but for the environment. In may own case I have little sympathy for PETA -- they're fanatically wacko IMO. Greenpeace really does have science backing-up their Gaia-worship. I'm with you on the showboating tactics, especially when it involves vandalism. But they're getting away from that leaving it to ELF and EarthFirst!.
I doubt that their top tier gets a compensation that is out of line with other NGO's. I'll bet actually less because they are so deeply committed. I used to be a member but I split with them over conservation. I think wise utilization of natural resources is the proper route but they are more extreme than me. But I still like them. |
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When they have gotten away from it permanently and for a while, I'd be willing to listen to them. till then, they are simply another vigilante
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I'm not sure you read what I wrote.
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I'm sure I read the part where you said "But I still like them."
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My apologies for lack of clarity.
I like some aspects of Greenpeace but I parted ways with them over their earlier incarnation that promoted vandalism and their later incarnation that is increasingly intolerant of wise use conservation. |
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Fair enough.
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