"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear-kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor-with the cry of 'Grave National Emergancy'. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some 'Monstrous Foreign Power' that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it".


GENERAL Douglas MacArthur, 1957~


Some people never learn....

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The secret to a long life. Is knowing when it is time to leave.

To what are you referring? America's ability to transform the world for the better simply by existing in the first place? Even Singapore owes its citizen's freedoms to the model created by the US over 200 years ago. And you complain like an idealistic spoiled rich child.

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1989 500SEL Euro
1966 250SE Cabriolet
1958 BMW Isetta 600

no offense, but the vietnamese are still removing claymores and unexploded bombs, 37 years after the "fall" of Saigon?

need i mention guatemala and iraq?

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Firstly, the best thing Singapore ever did, was to boot the British occupiers out of their country back in 67-70.

That they modelled their countries structure on the U.S. is a total fantasy in your mind.

I have had in depth conversations with members of the peoples Action Party (PAP), as well as members of the Workers Party (WP), and neither entertain the thought that democracy will ever work in S.E. Asia.

Perhaps you read up on Lee Kwan Yew, his books 'The Hard Truths' may enlighten you.

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Secondly: What I am refferring to> 'Forms of U.S. intervention'

For example, the US government did not directly attempt to destabilize the Indonesian Government of President Sukaro in 1965 (although they did try seven years earlier). But they made it clear to General Suharto and his fellow thugs how much they appreciated their hard-line stance against the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI), which was legally contesting elections.
And after Suharto's thugs overthrew Suharto themselves, the US supplied them not only with weaponry, but also the names of suspected PKI members compiled by US Intelligance sources, which insured the blood-bath which followed the Coup that destroyed the PKI and other progressive organisations once and for all. By even conservative estimates, Suharto's regime slaughtered more than 500,000 people (mostly ethnic Chinese).....

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...This is intervention. The U.S. did it again in Indonesia a decade later, when they let Suharto know they had no objection to his invadeing East Timor after the Portuguese withdrew from their former colony. The invasion probably couldnt have brought the havoc it did on the Timorese people without again, the weaponry (and the training in how to use it) supplied to the Indonesian Army by the U.S.

Indonesia is by no means a solitary case of this covert type of intervention: the U.S. has engaged in it everywhere from Italy and Greece to Afghanistan to the Congo (opposing Lumumba), and Angola (supporting Savimbi). Covert intervention has been SOP in the U.S's dealings with Latin American countries since WW2. (before that they simply invaded them when they didnt approve of their governments)...........

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.....This type of intervention is ongoing: the Columbian Government is murdering its citizens by the thousands with U.S. support, which they also supplied to the Turks in their 'Ethnic Cleansing' adventures against the Kurds. 80% of Turkeys armaments have a "Made in the U.S.A." stamped on them. these weapons have been used to destroy more than 3,500 Kurd villiages and displace at least 2.5 million people since 1991-roughly seven times the numbers estimated for Kosovo........

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....In Vietnam, not only did the U.S. renege on Kissinger's promise to help rebuild the country after the war, they also placed enormous diplomatic and economic pressures on all countries outside of the Soviet Bloc not to do so either. The U.S. continued to isolate Iraq-until they finally inveded/occupied it. the miseries that result from these sanctions fall on the civilian peoples in the affected countries, especially the poor, the children, and the elderly.

WHAT is humanitatian about such policies?

HOW do they promote freedom and 'Democracy'?

POS, your answer please.

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