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Old 06-05-2012, 09:51 AM
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First, a serial killer in the Whitehouse...

Dont look now but....The Federal Aviation Administration has given ISREAL permission to fly their drones in American airspace.

www.veteranstoday.com

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Dont look now but....The Federal Aviation Administration has given ISREAL permission to fly their drones in American airspace.

www.veteranstoday.com

Couldn't you post a link with a few more things to sort through before finding the story that you want to discuss?

I didn't find what you particularly want to discuss, so I can only comment on your text:


As a US pilot I am TOTALLY OPPOSED to drones flying in US air space. Sharing the sky VFR with other aircraft piloted by humans is much more calming than sharing it with unmanned aircraft. The person flying an unmanned aircraft does not have their BUTT sitting in that aircraft, so it's difficult to have as much trust that they will be dilligently avoiding other aircraft.

As far as the Israelli's flying their drones in our airspace, I have no less trust for their drones and drone operators as I do those of US citizenship.

Israel is a trusted ally.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:14 AM
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Couldn't you post a link with a few more things to sort through before finding the story that you want to discuss?

I didn't find what you particularly want to discuss, so I can only comment on your text:


As a US pilot I am TOTALLY OPPOSED to drones flying in US air space. Sharing the sky VFR with other aircraft piloted by humans is much more calming than sharing it with unmanned aircraft. The person flying an unmanned aircraft does not have their BUTT sitting in that aircraft, so it's difficult to have as much trust that they will be dilligently avoiding other aircraft.

As far as the Israelli's flying their drones in our airspace, I have no less trust for their drones and drone operators as I do those of US citizenship.

Israel is a trusted ally.
You will have to excuse my lack of technical knowledge, I do the best I can.


You contridict yourself in two places that I read..not sure of why you confuse the issue.
Let me get this straight...POTUS can do nothing wrong-as long as it suits your agenda of supporting Isreal? But on all other counts you state that Obama is not qualified to run a lemon-aid stand. Total hypocrisy.

Allie...trusted....?? Do you need to be reminded that Isreal has already attacked a U.S. war ship, and has threatened to let some of their nukes loose on the U.S.-should the U.S. fail to support them if they are over-run by the Arabs/Iran?

If you cannot see the recipe for disaster, I dont know what to tell you Larry.
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You contridict yourself in two places that I read..not sure of why you confuse the issue.
Let me get this straight...POTUS can do nothing wrong-as long as it suits your agenda of supporting Isreal? But on all other counts you state that Obama is not qualified to run a lemon-aid stand. Total hypocrisy.

Allie...trusted....?? Do you need to be reminded that Isreal has already attacked a U.S. war ship, and has threatened to let some of their nukes loose on the U.S.-should the U.S. fail to support them if they are over-run by the Arabs/Iran?

If you cannot see the recipe for disaster, I dont know what to tell you Larry.

No, generally speaking I do NOT trust the current POTUS as far as I could throw him. In the US, however, our government has checks and balances, a State department, the CIA, the Military, etc., etc., such that in spite of B.O.'s own wishes to be the unconditional dictator, at this point he has not been successful in achieving that status.

SO.... it's not the POTUS that I'm trusting, it's the US system that I trust only slightly more.

BTW, I have NEVER said that B.O. is not qualified to run a Lemonade Stand. What I HAVE said is that he never had ANY executive experience, not even so much as running a lemonade stand.

Please expand on your claim that Israel has ATTACKED a US war ship. That one is quite interesting to me. It would also be interesting to know details about such nuclear threats toward the US. You must have some very interesting news sources.

As far as recipe's for disaster, trusting the region SURROUNDING Israel appears to be the recipe for disaster from where I sit.
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Please expand on your claim that Israel has ATTACKED a US war ship.
USS Liberty. 1967. By accident (of course). Several dozen sailors killed.

If it were anyone else, we`d have blown one or two of their ships out of the water rather than begging for compensation.
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USS Liberty. 1967. By accident (of course). Several dozen sailors killed.

If it were anyone else, we`d have blown one or two of their ships out of the water rather than begging for compensation.

Thanks for the information Speed!

From your summary it sounds as if the US dealt with a friend the way I would deal with a friend. It was an accident, so we move on.
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Israel paid cash for that one. There is some speculation that LBJ ordered it covered up. I have never read nor heard of any threats, nuclear or otherwise, by Israel toward the U.S.
Once again, religion trumps. If you're Christian, you probably support Israel, and if you're Muslim, chances are you'll seek justification for supporting most any other ME country. It makes the arguments of both sides look pretty suspicious.
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How many Drones have crashed planes on US soil by accident?Im curious if they have to report a flight plan over US territory.If no FAA rules apply to the Military on using Drones the public needs to be aware .

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How many Drones have crashed planes on US soil by accident?Im curious if they have to report a flight plan over US territory.If no FFA rules apply to the Military on using Drones the public needs to be aware .

To my knowledge none, YET! It would be really nice to keep it that way don't you agree? This has been a commonly discussed issue in pilot circles and publications. Unless you are talking about an IFR flight plan, I can't IMAGINE that they would file a flight plan. The only reason for a VFR flight plan is in case a plane goes down, they will know sooner so they can start a search sooner in order to aid in saving human life. VFR flight plans are not mandatory, and not filed very often.

Contrary to popular belief failure to file a flight plan does NOT mean that the flight was not planned.
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No, generally speaking I do NOT trust the current POTUS as far as I could throw him. In the US, however, our government has checks and balances, a State department, the CIA, the Military, etc., etc., such that in spite of B.O.'s own wishes to be the unconditional dictator, at this point he has not been successful in achieving that status.

SO.... it's not the POTUS that I'm trusting, it's the US system that I trust only slightly more.

BTW, I have NEVER said that B.O. is not qualified to run a Lemonade Stand. What I HAVE said is that he never had ANY executive experience, not even so much as running a lemonade stand.

Please expand on your claim that Israel has ATTACKED a US war ship. That one is quite interesting to me. It would also be interesting to know details about such nuclear threats toward the US. You must have some very interesting news sources.

As far as recipe's for disaster, trusting the region SURROUNDING Israel appears to be the recipe for disaster from where I sit.
On any given day, I read news from 20 news sources from around the world. Including 4 from britain, 2 from France, Rome, Isreal, Amman, Cairo, Bahrain, NYT, washington post.Also listen to shortwave from Kol. Isreal, R. beirut International, Crete Radio, Swiss Radio, BBC, Africa One, Jordan International.

If you claim to have never heard of the U.S.S. Liberty attack in 67,or have conveniently developed amnesia on the subject- there is not much point discussing this with you.
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USS Liberty. 1967. By accident (of course). Several dozen sailors killed.

If it were anyone else, we`d have blown one or two of their ships out of the water rather than begging for compensation.
But you or I will never know what went on in back channels.
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How many Drones have crashed planes on US soil by accident?Im curious if they have to report a flight plan over US territory.If no FFA rules apply to the Military on using Drones the public needs to be aware .
Faa just signed off on the rules a couple weeks ago. See EPA is going to monitor farmers for cow turd pollution.
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Thanks for the information Speed!

From your summary it s/unds as if the US dealt with a friend the way I would deal with a friend. It was an accident, so we move on.
............Yup..right on to 1981..but first, we go back to 1954- Isrealli agents working in Egypt planted a bomb in a United States Diplomatic Facility-plot uncovered before damage done..15 june, 1981-President Reagan is tricked into bombing Libya, by bad info shuttled through Tripoli by the Mossad..resulting in Khadaffi's daughter being killed...oh no problem..oopsy-daisy...seque to 12 December, 2002. FBI, CIA, Secret Service, DEA discovered the largest foriegn espionage ring ever on U.S. soil.
It seems your friends - over 200 Isrealli's had decided they would like to penetrate some US Intelligance agency's.(after-all, the U.S.never penalises them-so WHY NOT eh?) MSMBC's Brett Hume then reported the spys were attempting to penetrate the Justice Department, US Judicial system,several military bases, the FBI, DEA, INS, and CIA.

Micheal Chertoff set them all free.

And now you have drones operated by the Isrealli's flying over U.S.soil.

The chickens have come home/and are going to come home to roost.
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