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Old 06-18-2012, 11:36 PM
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Mich. lawmaker silenced for abortion bill comments

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A Michigan lawmaker said support and campaign donations were rolling in Friday, a day after she was barred from speaking in the House because she used the word "vagina" during a debate on an anti-abortion bill.

Rep. Lisa Brown, a Democrat from suburban Detroit, was silenced after Republicans who control the chamber said she violated decorum. While speaking Wednesday against a bill requiring doctors to ensure women aren't coerced into ending their pregnancies, Brown told Republicans, "I'm flattered you're all so concerned about my vagina. But no means no."

Brown, of West Bloomfield, and another Democrat were told they coul

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The republican responses to her comment is quite perplexing to me. Ms. Brown did not use any foul language, no slang, nothing. She used a anatomical correct word. WTF?

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Old 06-19-2012, 06:03 AM
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Things just get stranger and stranger in R land.

This is Giving the D's a bit more ammunition to talk about the war on women.

This was on Fox news?
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In private I bet those same Republicans who silenced her use a synonym for vagina to refer to her.
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Things just get stranger and stranger in R land.

This is Giving the D's a bit more ammunition to talk about the war on women.

This was on Fox news?
True. I'm still a registered Republican, but over the past several years members of my party have been doing a lot of things I can't defend.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:47 PM
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As quoted from the bill itself:

"Article 1: After sticky the wee wee in the hoohah, no can dump baby"
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:49 PM
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Things just get stranger and stranger in R land.

This is Giving the D's a bit more ammunition to talk about the war on women.

This was on Fox news?
It was but you had to dig for it. I used FOX so the right wingers would have something else to complain about
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She used the wrong word on the floor. You are making it appear she was silenced for her topic.


If reversed it would be the same issue. Just not misrepresented.
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She used the wrong word on the floor...
What word was that? How was she to know that it was "wrong"?
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Unparliamentary Speech

A Member should avoid impugning the motives of another Member, the Senate or the President, using offensive language, or uttering words that are otherwise deemed unparliamentary. These actions are strictly against House Rules and are subject to a demand that the words be taken down. A demand that the Member’s words be taken down results in the clerk reporting the words and the chair ruling on the propriety of the words. (If the demand is made in the Committee of the Whole, the Committee rises and reports them to the House where the Chair rules on their propriety).

The offending Member may obtain unanimous consent to withdraw the inappropriate words or the demand may be withdrawn. Following such a withdrawal, the Member proceeds in order. However, if the Member’s words are ruled out of order, they may be stricken from the Congressional Record by motion or unanimous consent, and the Member will not be allowed to speak again on that day except by motion or unanimous consent.
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So, the ruling was that "vagina" and "vasectomy" are both "offensive"? A surprising result, IMHO.

I also don't see where that rule authorizes the leader to prohibit the two legislators from speaking on Thursday for words they said on Wednesday.

How do you know that they weren't silenced for their topic? Is there some tradition or precedent that tells you that?
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Unparliamentary Speech

A Member should avoid impugning the motives of another Member, the Senate or the President, using offensive language, or uttering words that are otherwise deemed unparliamentary. These actions are strictly against House Rules and are subject to a demand that the words be taken down. A demand that the Member’s words be taken down results in the clerk reporting the words and the chair ruling on the propriety of the words. (If the demand is made in the Committee of the Whole, the Committee rises and reports them to the House where the Chair rules on their propriety).

The offending Member may obtain unanimous consent to withdraw the inappropriate words or the demand may be withdrawn. Following such a withdrawal, the Member proceeds in order. However, if the Member’s words are ruled out of order, they may be stricken from the Congressional Record by motion or unanimous consent, and the Member will not be allowed to speak again on that day except by motion or unanimous consent.
Because vagina is a no no word
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The offending Member may obtain unanimous consent to withdraw the inappropriate words or the demand may be withdrawn. Following such a withdrawal, the Member proceeds in order. However, if the Member’s words are ruled out of order, they may be stricken fom the Congressional Record by motion or unanimous consent, and the Member will not be allowed to speak again on that day except by motion or unanimous consent.
What a load of crap. She used a medically correct term. The fact that the republicans were.embarrassed about being called out is their problem. The RNC has been attacking women and I can only hope they pay the price come Nov.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:14 PM
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Trying real hard to make the repubs hate women thing stick.
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Trying real hard to make the repubs hate women thing stick.
And you are being entirely objective? That's not the message that's coming through in this thread.

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