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The R's have been saying ever since O got in "when is he going to own the poor economy and the deficite?"
Things were so bad when he came in there is no formula to say "ok by this time he should have cured all the ills of the economy". How many months or years is "enough" to have solved it? There is no answer, and trying to fix it really fast would have been a bad idea. We are experiencing slow but steady growth. As far as mid term elections, can anybody name a president who did not lose seats in the house and senate during mid terms? I can't.
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Just remember that Bush needed two full terms to destroy the economy.
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LOL don't confuse Larry with facts. In Larry's mind Obama = Bad. Just view everything from that angle and what he posts makes sense.
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Tom, it appears that you are ignoring the fact that the National debt is significantly out pacing the GDP. That does NOT represent economic net growth.
B.O. had complete control with democrat house and senate for two years and had all the chance in the world to put in place policies that could have launched our economy long ago. His choice, however, was to ignore the economy and put in place socialized medicine and socialized spending in the form of a stimulus package. I was saying on this forum in 2008, that the stimulus would NOT stimulate the private sector and it has not. Unemployment since B.O. took office? UP! Deficit since B.O. took office? UP! Debt since B.O. took office? DRASTICALLY UP! If his policies were working, this is NOT what we would have seen. If he HAD cut the deficit in half like he promised even I would be voting for him. There is a point where a person has to man up and admit when his policies are not working, rather than hang onto them and drive our Grandchildren even DEEPER into the crapper. A REAL man would do just that.
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Doesn't look like any defense to me. B.O. said that he would cut the deficit in HALF! Your chart proves that not to be the case, so thanks for the research. BTW, did you not see in your numbers that unemployment was at 5% when he took office? Also, have you noticed that what little improvement is represented in the debt? In other words, our Grandchildren will pay for it. Is that what YOU want to leave for your Grandkids? You are clearly blinded by B.O.'s slick presentation and nice smile.
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Let's see how it does over the next 48 hours.
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I surely must have something better to do than waste my time trying to make a point with someone who 1. Cannot, apparently read a simple spreadsheet or doesn't know when the current president took office. 2. Is blinded by a suspect hatred that runs far deeper than numbers and has more to do with colors and names. If it wasn't so much ****ing fun, I'd quit.
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You specifically said in your post you would be happy with slightly lower unemployment and slight lower national deficit. Unless your disputing the numbers, they clearly show what I think would be defined as "slight" improvements. So are you disputing the numbers? Or do you need to clarify your definition of "slightly"?
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Larry I don't have a dog in this race because I don't support either political party. I would dance happily if the repubs and dems burned on a boat, so I couldn't care less which one does what.
But if your going to argue a point, don't ramble, do it with facts because without them your just blowing hot air into the wind and wasting your effort. Oh and BTW the occupant of the oval office has little to do with the economy. The economy goes in cycles and getting into office at a high or low is just luck.
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I disagree with your last point about the scant effect that the occupant of the Oval Office has on the economy. I think he/she can have great effect--but sometimes there are over-riding factors. The economy does have cycles, like you say, but they are not in a vacuum. The President sets the tone for an administration--a tone that is either friendly to business expansion, or opposed to it, a tone that supports politically well-connected big business, or middle class start ups. The President sets the tone for enforcement of (sometimes ) arcane laws that can be used to stifle, or promote business' interests. The President sets the tone for the culture that is either positive and bright, or dismal and negative. The President has a great effect on the economy. Can he/she walk in a throw a switch on the wall, and immediately turn around the economy? No, of course not, but there are many ways the President is an important factor in how well the economy does.
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Let the cool aid drinking begin,served up with delicious popcorn and candy treats for all to enjoy.
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So the Dem's would never harm the economy for political gain?
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look at his plans for the new currency! OBAMA ON NEW DOLLAR BILL | Weekly World News
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