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Old 08-25-2012, 11:56 AM
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So the Dem's would never harm the economy for political gain?
I think you are placing too much skill in the hands of elected officials. The idea of intentionally harming the economy for political gain means that we are assuming people who truly understand how the economy works, for either party. I doubt that, I think we have opposing groups of people who all want to try and fix things, and have different ideas on how to do it.

Remember many of our economic experts could have been working for 30 years after the whole reaganomics lunacy, and are fully versed in the idea of spending more while taking in less, and borrowing the difference.

What we need is a true depression era economics expert, and patience and understanding of time.

For example, we have larry shrieking about the economic situation, without realizing that it took 30 years of fiscal irresponsibility to get to this point, and its ridiculous to assume that in a mere single presidential term of office that all the mistakes of the past could be righted, and the mentality of more for less could be changed.

For example, in the crash of 29, the US didn't really come out of that disaster until the start of WW2 10 years later and the boom of war production. Its gonna be a long road, and when you compare the depth of the crashes, the "downturn" is worse than the 29 crash.

Its silly to think that any president could fix everything in a few years, what we need is at least 3-4 presidents in a row with the same fiscal ideas, and a commitment to fiscal responsibility and wisdom vs slashing taxes and increasing government services.

Thats why I have little respect for the republican platform, its more of the same crap that got us into this situation in the first place

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I think you are placing too much skill in the hands of elected officials. The idea of intentionally harming the economy for political gain means that we are assuming people who truly understand how the economy works, for either party. I doubt that, I think we have opposing groups of people who all want to try and fix things, and have different ideas on how to do it.

Remember many of our economic experts could have been working for 30 years after the whole reaganomics lunacy, and are fully versed in the idea of spending more while taking in less, and borrowing the difference.

What we need is a true depression era economics expert, and patience and understanding of time.

For example, we have larry shrieking about the economic situation, without realizing that it took 30 years of fiscal irresponsibility to get to this point, and its ridiculous to assume that in a mere single presidential term of office that all the mistakes of the past could be righted, and the mentality of more for less could be changed.

For example, in the crash of 29, the US didn't really come out of that disaster until the start of WW2 10 years later and the boom of war production. Its gonna be a long road, and when you compare the depth of the crashes, the "downturn" is worse than the 29 crash.

Its silly to think that any president could fix everything in a few years, what we need is at least 3-4 presidents in a row with the same fiscal ideas, and a commitment to fiscal responsibility and wisdom vs slashing taxes and increasing government services.

Thats why I have little respect for the republican platform, its more of the same crap that got us into this situation in the first place
Then who was pulling the plug on Sept 15th, 2008?
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Anti-Obama Movie Stuns Hollywood For #3; Other Newcomers & Holdovers Weak Friday; Only ‘The Expendables 2′ Can Break $10M
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Despite the typeface size . . .

The picture is no Fahrenheit 911 just yet — that film earned $119.2 million — but its takeoff at the box office is notable. 2016 may earn about $7 million over the three day frame, which would give it almost $10 million total. That’s enough to make the film the second-highest grossing documentary this year (behind Disney’s Chimpanzee), surpassing Bully‘s $3.5 million cume, as well as the highest grossing conservative documentary of all time — passing Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, which grossed $7.7 million in 2008.

To be clear, its performance isn’t shocking, despite the numerous headlines suggesting it is — just look at the film’s trajectory over the past few weeks.
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Then who was pulling the plug on Sept 15th, 2008?
you need to clarify your point here.

Lehman brothers bankruptcy relates to what I said exactly how?
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Old 08-25-2012, 05:01 PM
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I do not agree that a POV affects whether or not something is propaganda or not. Facts can stand on their own. You seemed to imply that the 'propaganda' in the 2016 movie was the truth (your words) but admitting that the movie is propaganda would seem to imply that the movie is not the truth or at least if there is truth in the movie that it has been twisted around a bit.

More to the point, if the movie is propaganda, then why on earth would anyone waste their time to see it?
Like Fahrenheit 9/11, for example.
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you need to clarify your point here.

Lehman brothers bankruptcy relates to what I said exactly how?
Excuse me, the date is Sept 11th.

This is the nudge that started it rolling and took the football from McCain and gave the presidency to Obama.

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Question is who was at the ATM withdrawing the money and why?
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Despite the typeface size . . .

The picture is no Fahrenheit 911 just yet — that film earned $119.2 million — but its takeoff at the box office is notable. 2016 may earn about $7 million over the three day frame, which would give it almost $10 million total. That’s enough to make the film the second-highest grossing documentary this year (behind Disney’s Chimpanzee), surpassing Bully‘s $3.5 million cume, as well as the highest grossing conservative documentary of all time — passing Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, which grossed $7.7 million in 2008.

To be clear, its performance isn’t shocking, despite the numerous headlines suggesting it is — just look at the film’s trajectory over the past few weeks.
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So the Dem's would never harm the economy for political gain?
Anyone who harms the country for political gain regardless of their party should be tried and shot for treason.

Both parties have put politics above the good of the country in the past which is why all republicans and democrats should be put on a boat and burned at sea.
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Anyone who harms the country for political gain regardless of their party should be tried and shot for treason.

Both parties have put politics above the good of the country in the past which is why all republicans and democrats should be put on a boat and burned at sea.
Remember Pelosi running over to Turkey to try and shut down provisions going to our troops through Turkey?
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listen, you just don't get it elchivito. There are dozens of examples of fabricated evidence, lying MSM spokespersons, voter fraud, and we are missing the fact that Obama is about to create a nation state with him as Holy Kenmerican Emperor. Are you blind? The data you have posted is all a fraudulent shell game!

look at his plans for the new currency!

OBAMA ON NEW DOLLAR BILL | Weekly World News



I stand corrected! Wow, can I have some more punch?

I also liked the very informative and timely story on that same link about the explosion of Kim Kardashian's butt.
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listen, you just don't get it elchivito. There are dozens of examples of fabricated evidence, lying MSM spokespersons, voter fraud, and we are missing the fact that Obama is about to create a nation state with him as Holy Kenmerican Emperor. Are you blind? The data you have posted is all a fraudulent shell game!

look at his plans for the new currency!

OBAMA ON NEW DOLLAR BILL | Weekly World News



And a new flag! WHITE HOUSE UNVEILS NEW AMERICAN FLAG | Weekly World News
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My wife and I are thinking about seeing it sometime this week...
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Post #63 gives you the numbers on the films success ,it details that the movie has been FRONTLOADED ,meaning tickets were prebought to give the movie a look of bigger success to pump up a possible audience ,up to 35% .Hmmmm
I like a good shot in the foot.
It also states in the report the following," Exhibitors played witness to mass bus convoys showing up to see the movie ,the same happens around faith based movies which have been exhibited and followed the same way." My guess would be a bus full of Tea party propaganda.

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Old 08-26-2012, 11:58 AM
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Despite the typeface size . . .

[I]The picture is no Fahrenheit 911 just yet — ...
Thank goodness for that. It's difficult to underestimate the pathetically shallow critical thinking skills of Americans. 9-11 was just another domino and this movie is not the last.

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