I haven't been on in ages. Posting from my phone. My laptop didn't survive the one drop in five years and I really can't afford a new one. To recap: I was unemployed for 19 months before I found a job that required 60hrs a week for less than a third of my previous earnings. I began to fall ill right at that time. Within three months, I had to resign from that job due to my illness. No job, no insurance and facing cancer. This for someone who had faced nothing more than the common cold in his then 43 years on earth. In fact, even up to a few days of my first signs of illness, I was running up and down the three flights to my apartment with ease. This story is directed towards everyone no matter your political leanings, for I AM YOU I'm your brother. I'm your father,husband,neighbor,cousin and best friend.
I worked since I was 15. Sometimes 2 and 3 jobs at a time. I went to school, made a good living and had a few bucks in the bank. While I didn't have any dancing horses, I was comfortable. Now, nearly two years into my battle, I can speak from my experiences as well as people I've met along the way.
I'm soon to be 46 so I fall into the group of "people below 55" that would be effected by a future "voucher" program. Just as many of you on here. Were it not for the care I've received, I'd have been dead two years ago. Some of you die hards may think so what. You should have died. Well guess what sunshine? Unless your name is Bush, Romney, Kennedy, etc, you WILL be me. Your home and savings will be wiped out. A $15,000 voucher will not get you far. Here's some examples from my two tears at this.
- Daily meds run $2000 a month.
- Six sessions of chemotherapy-just the drug/chemicals were over $1000 per session not including the actual infusion.
- CT Scans. I've had three. Two in 2011alone. $7000 each.
- Colonoscopy and Endoscopy-$6000
- Surgical procedures: Biopsy of lump on my neck, removal of a lymph gland from my neck for biopsy, surgical implant of a "Medi-Port" in my chest for chemo infusion directly into my heart.
- Lest we not forget the primary care, oncology and neurology visits- which have subsided from every three weeks to every three months.

As of this moment I am cancer free and back up to my usual 6ft 2 and 200 pounds from a low of 160 - which I haven't been since my freshman year of high school 31 years ago. My feet are done as a result. Permanent nerve damage. Peripheral neuropathy. They're a constant source of pain,discomfort and swelling. With blessings from all THREE doctors,I walk and exercise as much as I can. I'd rather not sit around,gain 100 pounds and add heart disease and diabetes to the fray. I'm already facing the future possibility of Lymphoma from the cancer and leukemia from the chemotherapy.

So my friends, in a nutshell; Unless you have a name like I listed above, you WILL be ME. Being a democrat,republican or independent will be of no matter. When you or someone you know/love winds up here, you will realize Adam and Steve getting married and moving in next door, the brown guy sneaking across the border or your right to carry a gun will pale in comparison.

Apologies for any typos as its taken me 45 min to type this on my phone. I will go back and edit as I see fit.

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i wish you ALL the very best.

It seems the rumours of your death were highly exaggerated.
Good to hear frm you, welcome back.
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I agree the health care delivery in this country is a godawful mess. For a first world country there is no excuse for this.

I would most certainly be in the same boat without government retiree medical insurance which helps a lot.

I have been shocked to learn of so many people with NO insurancve of an kind.

"Obama care" and Mittens' "Vouchercare" both terrify me. The effects of either one are unknown and untested.

Illegals' health plan is simple - just go the ER room, and don't pay, afterwards.

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Our prayers are with you ADGUY. Life is not fair and you have found out and been singled out as an example of that.

Unfortunately the illegals' health plan is sapping money which citizens could be given and the country has no stomach for more taxes or bigger government which would include you under it's "we'll care for everyone" plan.

Good to hear from you.

I agree we need the healthcare reform for sure.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Unfortunately the illegals' health plan is sapping money which citizens could be given and the country has no stomach for more taxes or bigger government which would include you under it's "we'll care for everyone" plan.
As a 30+ year Paramedic I would say that statement shows the lack of understanding of our healthcare system.

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I was under the impression that the voucher idea was to apply the voucher toward an insurance policy not as here is $15k to cover your costs. I think the idea is BS because the co-pays and deductibles will sink most folks on fixed incomes regardless of if you have a policy or not.

I am glad to hear you are doing better.

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- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

You've been a paramedic all over the USA? You know which people pay and which people do not? Are you in the field or in the accounting dept?
You think I do not know or understand the ER or it's doctors from around the country? Please please show me how illegals pay for ER and paramedic care and that the health care of illegals does not cost citizens tax money.

I may have missed something but I'd imagine buying insurance with a "preexisting condition" would be next to impossible.

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Buying insurance with a preexisting condition is not buying insurance- it's an attempt to prepay for the care you are going to use. I have a artificial heart valve- think I can buy life insurance? If you guessed "No"- you are correct. Why can't I buy life insurance? Because I'm much more likely to die early.

The voucher system proposed is a sham. It will not control costs at all. It just limits the amount the government will pay. A business bottom line solution that would work in favor of the government as if it were a business only concerned about the bottom line.

It would be a disaster for the consumer/citizen.....well, no improvement over the system as it was before the present system was established.

The present system is still phasing in. I don't know how anybody can pretend to know all the implications of it until it is all in and has had a chance to work for a while.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I know with Obamas universal healthcare the pre-existing condition escape clause for insurance is gone. No one can be denied coverage. I do not know if they can just price it so high as to still make it non-existent and I do not know if Romneys even adresses pre-existing.

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2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

SO we don't know all the implications but let's do it anyways. That's the extent of why I refuse to jump off the cliff with the rest of the lemmings.

That's my point. If the voucher is to BUY coverage and not actually PAY for services provided,so to speak,how do you or I "buy insurance" under a plan with no preexisting conditions clause?

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I found this info on pre-existing conditions in regards to universal health care. According to this the cost for insurance cannot be increased based on a pre-existing and there cannot be any limit on life time caps.

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

IDK at all. Perhaps TW or Pelosi can tell you how to do it, but it appears no one really knows.