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4x4_Welder 12-09-2012 01:24 AM

Lake style wheel covers with narrow (215 or 225 )LT highway tires at max pressure would gain as much MPG as the roller rockers.
A good intake system, good mandrel bent exhaust, synthetic rear diff lube and ATF, plus stay away from ethanol fuels.

MS Fowler 12-09-2012 06:30 AM

I have a friend who installed a 6.9 International diesel (IDI) in a Ford bronco, and another one in an F150 for his son. Both get 30 mpg on the highway. But it wasn't cheap, nor easy.

Skippy 12-09-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sixto (Post 3062304)
It's a passenger E150 and we take it when we're more than the 7 that'll fit in the minivan.

I think that's your solution right there-just make everybody chip in for gas and you're all set.

For several months earlier this year I had a paying passenger for my commute. His car was sufficiently decrepit that he didn't trust it to drive to work, and he lived about 100 yards out of my way, so I ended up getting paid ten bucks a week for going someplace I needed to go anyway.

roflwaffle 12-14-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty (Post 3062644)
I think that is a dream at this point. Don't know and won't be able to tell because people lie so much about mileage it is not worth the time to pursue. I believe that you would waste a lot of time and money and never save a lot of gas. If you want to say you get great mileage just lie like the rest of them.

It's not a dream, so much as work most people aren't willing to do. It's hard enough to get people off their own couch, much less get them to drop in taller gearing via changes in the rear-end/trans, fabricate an aerodynamic bed cover, do some other aero mods, etc, etc... Well, that and the way a lot of guys think about their truck, you'd think it was their purse. :rolleyes:

TwitchKitty 12-15-2012 06:41 AM

A lot of the conventional wisdom simply doesn't work in practice. Great in theory, makes perfect sense, until you throw mother nature into the mix.

I got an increase (slight) in mileage by going to lower gearing in my camper van. The 4.10 gears make cruising up hills in third gear easy work for the engine and it stays near the peak of the torque curve when torque is needed. Still cruises in OD nicely.

Throw a big box like a van into the wind and efficiency left about a quarter 'til three yesterday.

A lot of people lie (some innocently) about their mileage. Some of those are selling you something. Over the years I have seen a few vehicles that perform beyond reason for what they are. They are rare.

Car MPG Efficiency Modifications Main - EcoModder

It's fun to check this stuff out but good luck getting any of it to pay off. Big vehicles need big brakes and tires to stop and lots of gas to go. If you can reduce the amount of gas to make it go you should be able to reduce the amount of brakes to make it stop, no?

#1 gas saving modification: Live close to where you work. Don't give your money to scumbag oil companies or scumbag real estate developers.

#2 Don't drive within ten miles of a Wal-Mart.

Skippy 12-15-2012 05:02 PM

I see how #1 works, but what about #2?

sixto 12-15-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty (Post 3066480)
If you can reduce the amount of gas to make it go you should be able to reduce the amount of brakes to make it stop, no?

You wouldn't swap in lighter duty brakes, you'd swap for a lighter duty vehicle.

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty (Post 3066480)
#1 gas saving modification: Live close to where you work. Don't give your money to scumbag oil companies or scumbag real estate developers.

One of many counterpoints is when work is driving the van.

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty (Post 3066480)
#2 Don't drive within ten miles of a Wal-Mart.

It's getting more difficult to not live within ten mile of Walmart. Even if you don't move, Walmart closes in.

Sixto
87 300D

Skippy 12-15-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sixto (Post 3066680)
It's getting more difficult to not live within ten mile of Walmart. Even if you don't move, Walmart closes in.

Sixto
87 300D

I would have to drive about nine miles to be ten miles from the nearest Wal Mart, and that only works if I head east. Headed north, by the time I'm ten miles from the north Carson store, I'm getting close to one of several in Reno. Heading south, I go five miles toward the south Carson store before I start getting farther away, and you have to go down almost to that Wal Mart to take U.S. 50 over the hill to go west.

MS Fowler 12-16-2012 03:22 PM

It does depend on the population density. I have 3 Wally Marts within 10 miles.

t walgamuth 12-16-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sixto (Post 3066680)
You wouldn't swap in lighter duty brakes, you'd swap for a lighter duty vehicle.



One of many counterpoints is when work is driving the van.



It's getting more difficult to not live within ten mile of Walmart. Even if you don't move, Walmart closes in.

Sixto
87 300D

I suspect the poster who said less brakes meant coast more brake less, as a driving style.;)

sixto 12-17-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3067312)
I suspect the poster who said less brakes meant coast more brake less, as a driving style.;)

Possibly, but here's more of the quotation -

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty (Post 3066480)
Big vehicles need big brakes and tires to stop and lots of gas to go. If you can reduce the amount of gas to make it go you should be able to reduce the amount of brakes to make it stop, no?

Sixto
87 300D

MS Fowler 12-17-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3067312)
I suspect the poster who said less brakes meant coast more brake less, as a driving style.;)

Not equivalent, I think.
Slow acceleration reduces gas consumption.
Slow braking WOULD reduce the amount of energy turned into heat (waste), but do you really want to be in a vehicle that cannot stop as quickly as you want it to?
Reducing the weight of the vehicle helps acceleration, economy AND braking. But we are talking about a specific vehicle--difficult to reduce the weight very much.

t walgamuth 12-17-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 3068098)
Not equivalent, I think.
Slow acceleration reduces gas consumption.
Slow braking WOULD reduce the amount of energy turned into heat (waste), but do you really want to be in a vehicle that cannot stop as quickly as you want it to?
Reducing the weight of the vehicle helps acceleration, economy AND braking. But we are talking about a specific vehicle--difficult to reduce the weight very much.

the point is not to reduce the size of the brakes.


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