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Old 12-11-2012, 04:32 PM
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Treasury sells off remaining AIG stock

And reaps a profit for taxpayers of almost $23 billion. i can't wait to see how the Republican spin stars make this into a bad thing.

AIG has come back so well they are considering a dividend.

U.S. government exits AIG with bailout profit of $22.7 bln | Reuters

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:02 PM
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The AIG bailout began in September of 2008...4 months before Obama took office.

We're still on the hook to buy it back, if the treasury decides to do so.

Do the taxpayers have to pay taxes on the profit? If so, at which rate?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:09 PM
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The AIG bailout began in September of 2008...4 months before Obama took office.

We're still on the hook to buy it back, if the treasury decides to do so.

Do the taxpayers have to pay taxes on the profit? If so, at which rate?
Does it matter if they have to pay taxes, it will get back in the same pot; right?
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:23 PM
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Does it matter if they have to pay taxes, it will get back in the same pot; right?
Not necessarily...what gets paid for with tax payer money?? Well, we have insurance now, road projects, welfare, etc...if the money just goes back to the Treasury without tax money coming out, it could result in accounting issues.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:53 PM
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Not necessarily...what gets paid for with tax payer money?? Well, we have insurance now, road projects, welfare, etc...if the money just goes back to the Treasury without tax money coming out, it could result in accounting issues.
Better roads benefits me more than when it's going to reduce the debt created by the babyboomers. So lets tax it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:43 PM
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:53 PM
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The AIG bailout began in September of 2008...4 months before Obama took office.

We're still on the hook to buy it back, if the treasury decides to do so.

Do the taxpayers have to pay taxes on the profit? If so, at which rate?
that's silly. The government does not pay taxes.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:29 PM
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that's silly. The government does not pay taxes.
Neither does 47% of the nation...
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 PM
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The AIG bailout began in September of 2008...4 months before Obama took office.

We're still on the hook to buy it back, if the treasury decides to do so.

Do the taxpayers have to pay taxes on the profit? If so, at which rate?
I'll wager a share of stock that if it was a total failure you'd be more than happy to give the president full blame. What's wrong with some credit?
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From what I've been reading over the weekend, the remnants of AIG would be a purl to own/buy for a private investment company. When a company or it's stock is priced right for whatever reason(s) - it's time to consider buying it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:12 PM
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I'll wager a share of stock that if it was a total failure you'd be more than happy to give the president full blame. What's wrong with some credit?
That's a bet you'd lose...If you'd go back 4 years ago, you'd see that I *****ed about the Bush administration's financial shortcomings back when HE started bailing out the banks.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:44 PM
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23 billion is a plus in any book. Now, lets look at the rest of the spreadsheet instead of the few bright spots and see what we have. IIRC, Chrysler did bankrupt off a few govt loans so we need to add that to this and see what we get.

When I was in the payday loan business, we realized that even if we made $20 per $100 loaned, for ever $100 that went bad, we would have to loan no less than $700 and not get burned to break even.
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And reaps a profit for taxpayers of almost $23 billion. i can't wait to see how the Republican spin stars make this into a bad thing.

AIG has come back so well they are considering a dividend.

U.S. government exits AIG with bailout profit of $22.7 bln | Reuters
In October 2012 the government ran a 120 billion dollar deficit. So, that profit will be chewed up and spit out in 5 and a half days. Additionally, the governemt is still going to lose a money on the TARP program.

"Even with the windfall, the government will likely lose money on its Troubled Asset Relief Program, the $700 billion bailout launched in the darkest days of the crisis. Banks and auto companies still owe taxpayers tens of billions of dollars."

U.S. Treasury exits AIG as markets await rebound - Yahoo! Finance
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:10 PM
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That's a bet you'd lose...If you'd go back 4 years ago, you'd see that I *****ed about the Bush administration's financial shortcomings back when HE started bailing out the banks.
I'll take your word for that, and compliment you on consistency. Well done!

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