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Ara T. 12-21-2012 05:11 PM

Same old story after every shooting. With Columbine, they did it because they played too much Doom II. http://static.zenimax.com/bethblog/o...M_II_SP_02.jpg

Jorn 12-21-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dropnosky (Post 3070923)
im thinking they were kinda right in how outside influence can share partial blame. Put it this way, old farts then objected to the idea of timmy and tammy humping their brains out listening to "a big hunk O' love" without the accepted social precedents all lined up back then.

Well, their objection IMO was silly, but if timmy and tammy humping resulted in dozens of people killed, then id say we might look closer at just how much influence "big hunk O' love" actually had.

On one hand, we can accept that runs on the bank for completely engineered through media situations as the NEED to have a tickle me elmo, or a furby, are facts of the modern world. Look at how Mcd's ruthlessly controls the popularity of the mcrib, a sandwich made of crap as another example, yet people froth at the mouth to eat them.

I just think that gaming environments that are so real, so complex, and so self sustaining can definitely have a negative impact on the right mind when the overall message is that carnage is cool, violence is good, and pursuit of both has its rewards.

Went to a screening of "Apocalypto" with Mel Gibson presence for a Q&A last night and I to my knowledge no one in the audience went on to Hollywood Blvd and started to chop of some heads. I don't buy the correlation between movies, video games and mass killings.

On the other hand the correlation between watching Fox-news and violence is obvious to me: "Man Who Set Fire to Ohio Mosque Claims He Got ‘Riled Up’ Watching Fox News" :D

cmbdiesel 12-21-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by engatwork (Post 3070955)
I don't know how many of you have ever watched/played some of those video games but some of them are absolute trash in my opinion. Walk around busting ppl up to win points to buy weapons, running around stealing cars and shooting ppl and doing drug deals. I can see how an easily influenced young mind could think it is "normal". If ya'll have never seen it check out the latest rendition of Grand Theft Auto sometimes. The ex wife could not get to the store fast enough to purchase these games for my boys.



I agree with this^.

screw the hooker, then when she gets out, beat her to death and take her money...

what kind of wrong message is in that?;)

elchivito 12-21-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3070898)
Hmm... I don't remember them coming to my house to count my weopons?:confused:

You appear to have missed the point.

Imagine....

engatwork 12-21-2012 07:43 PM

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what kind of wrong message is in that?
That is what I'm talking about:eek:.

10fords 12-21-2012 08:32 PM

Any parent who lets their child play a game where you steal cars, beat people, shoot people, and do drug deals is a defective unit. My kids are absolutely forbidden to play any game where you shoot people, and are also not allowed to go to friends houses where those games are played. I will not entrust the care of my child to someone who is not involved enough to oversee what the kids are up to. It defies logic to think that anything other than bad could happen from allowing your kids to "play" these violent games. That being said, I don't want to ban these video games, or even try to regulate them, as I believe it is up to the parents to determine how they wish to raise their kids.

tbomachines 12-22-2012 11:09 AM

Just found out its Counter-Strike that the guy played. No robbing, stealing cars, or doing drug deals in that. Primary objective is to kill terrorists and disarm a bomb or rescue hostages. Happened to be one of my favorite games in college. And who's stopping a 20 year old from buying and playing games like that?

Dubyagee 12-22-2012 11:54 AM

But guns, games and movies are evil. They must be controlled er, regulated.


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cmac2012 12-22-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Benz Fan (Post 3070734)
I would bet that this NRA-trained police force would be responsible for more schoolchildren deaths per year through gun accidents and intentional shootings than the mass murderers that they would be employed to deter.

Could very well happen. Same way that guns in the home kill a family member about 4 times more often than an armed intruder.

Jim B. 12-22-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3070984)
screw the hooker, then when she gets out, beat her to death and take her money...

what kind of wrong message is in that?;)



A metaphorical reference to how the IRS routinely deals with small businesses and average working people.

jplinville 12-22-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ramonajim (Post 3070720)
Comes from the NRA :P

They want to volunteer their 11,000 trainers to prep an entirely volunteer police force with the goal of putting an armed "police officer" in every school in the country.

But somehow, all this altruism requires that Congress immediately ”appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school in this nation.”

Aside from being every shade of red over the stupidity this clown for continuing to blame video games for mass shootings, color me utterly confused over the need for appropriations to support an all-volunteer "police force" patrolling our schools.

That and terrified at the prospect of giving anything that even hints at a nod towards legitimizing a free-range militia tasked with determining what is and isn't a threat.

Getcher new-age militia plan here!

You are aware, aren't you that a program very similar to what has been proposed was implemented by Clinton in 2000?? It was called the COPS in School program.

Jorn 12-22-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville (Post 3071333)
You are aware, aren't you that a program very similar to what has been proposed was implemented by Clinton in 2000?? It was called the COPS in School program.

It was a dumb idea then as it's now. Creating a police state to keep your "liberties", where does it stop?

Dubyagee 12-22-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn (Post 3071344)
It was a dumb idea then as it's now. Creating a police state to keep your "liberties", where does it stop?

Its not a police state at football games, airports and the white house to have security.
Why do you go to the extreme and say that its a police state? Is it to stop an opposing viewpoint?


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Jorn 12-22-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3071437)
Its not a police state at football games, airports and the white house to have security.
Why do you go to the extreme and say that its a police state? Is it to stop an opposing viewpoint?


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Because that's how I see it and do you really think it will make a difference?

Dubyagee 12-22-2012 07:49 PM

A difference? Depends on how it is implemented. A swarm of cops would create some security at the expense of a prison environment. A few plain clothes officers (like air marshals) could work better. They would be harder to predict and the students intimidation factor would be lower.

A legitimate discussion could reveal better ideas instead of the posturing and name calling currently being utilized.


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