Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:41 AM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
Yes, the US electorate is indeed easily snookered!
Do you find that the case when the electorate disagrees with your choices? What virtues did you find in the G. W. Bush policies?

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:54 AM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,166
Hmm..... I went back and reread my posts and I'm having a REALLY tough time finding any reference to GWB. Maybe you have secret mind reading powers, being able to read something in my mind, that is not really IN my mind.
__________________
2001 SLK 320 six speed manual
2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:00 AM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
Try reading posts 12, 14, and 15, in context.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-21-2013, 12:25 PM
JamesDean's Avatar
Electrical Engineer
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 5,038
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
Yes Chris, I remember how that suggestion was guffawed by all the Obama zealots. I guess they were caught up in their Obamagasms and could not see it for what it was. Looks like our tax money invested in Chrysler bought Obama some time on this to postpone it until after the election. Chicago politics at its finest.


So Chrysler should not expand production in China and the Asian markets?
__________________
Cruise Control not working? Send me PM or email (jamesdean59@gmail.com). I might be able to help out.
Check here for compatibility, diagnostics, and availability!

(4/11/2020: Hi Everyone! I am still taking orders and replying to emails/PMs/etc, I appreciate your patience in these crazy times. Stay safe and healthy!)


82 300SD 145k
89 420SEL 210k
89 560SEL 118k
90 300SE 262k RIP 5/25/2010
90 560SEL 154k
91 300D 2.5 Turbo. 241k
93 190E 3.0 235k
93 300E 195k
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-21-2013, 12:38 PM
Simpler=Better's Avatar
Ham Shanker
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,544
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesDean View Post


So Chrysler should not expand production in China and the Asian markets?

In my book, Chrustler shouldn't be allowed to sell another car anywhere until they start offering CRDs as a stock option on all US vehicles. I'm just saying.
__________________
$60 OM617 Blank Exhaust Flanges
$110 OM606 Blank Exhaust Flanges
No merc at the moment
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-21-2013, 01:12 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooka View Post
Romney just lied and said they were moving all of their production to China
Well, how did he come about that information? Perhaps it is from the article HERE? Excerpt below

Quote:
Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia and president of the Jeep brand, told Bloomberg, "We're reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity" as well as "should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio" to China.
What we had was not some assembly worker. We have a rather high ranking person saying that. So is there an explanation for that? Did Chrysler backpedal because of political heat? Sure, someone else said something else but what is the explanation for his statement? Was he mistaken or just happen to blurt out something he shouldn't have said YET?
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-21-2013, 01:36 PM
JamesDean's Avatar
Electrical Engineer
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 5,038
Quote:
Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia and president of the Jeep brand, told Bloomberg, "We're reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity" as well as "should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio" to China.
In this context, could localizing mean starting up plants in China that produce the similar products as their American counterparts? Thats what I get when I read localize.

Similar to what GM does...

That is:
US Plant builds cars for NAM market
Russian plant builds cars for EURO market
Asia plant builds cars for Asian market?

Thats what GM does with the Cruze and a few other models as well.
__________________
Cruise Control not working? Send me PM or email (jamesdean59@gmail.com). I might be able to help out.
Check here for compatibility, diagnostics, and availability!

(4/11/2020: Hi Everyone! I am still taking orders and replying to emails/PMs/etc, I appreciate your patience in these crazy times. Stay safe and healthy!)


82 300SD 145k
89 420SEL 210k
89 560SEL 118k
90 300SE 262k RIP 5/25/2010
90 560SEL 154k
91 300D 2.5 Turbo. 241k
93 190E 3.0 235k
93 300E 195k
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-21-2013, 02:43 PM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
GM building cars for local consumption in Australia . . .
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-21-2013, 02:47 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,609
Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia and president of the Jeep brand, told Bloomberg, "We're reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity" as well as "should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio" to China.

Allow me to offer my take on the meaning of this statement by Manley (love that name!). I think it may mean they were considering offering either:
1. Their entire line (portfolio) meaning all models built here.
or
2. Building some models in China but not all of them.

I believe his jargon of "localizing" means buidling the models sold in a country in that country.

With that logic it would not follow to build models offered in the US in China.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-21-2013, 03:57 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth View Post
Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia and president of the Jeep brand, told Bloomberg, "We're reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity" as well as "should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio" to China.

Allow me to offer my take on the meaning of this statement by Manley (love that name!). I think it may mean they were considering offering either:
1. Their entire line (portfolio) meaning all models built here.
or
2. Building some models in China but not all of them.

I believe his jargon of "localizing" means buidling the models sold in a country in that country.

With that logic it would not follow to build models offered in the US in China.
It could go either way. HOWEVER, the fact that the higher ups in Chrysler do not give us a good clarification on what he said makes me suspicious. If your subordinate said something that could be viewed either way and there was a stink about it, don't you think it behooves you to explain to us what he meant instead of glossing it over?
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 01-21-2013, 04:10 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
Yes Chris, I remember how that suggestion was guffawed by all the Obama zealots. I guess they were caught up in their Obamagasms and could not see it for what it was. Looks like our tax money invested in Chrysler bought Obama some time on this to postpone it until after the election. Chicago politics at its finest.
More than just "Obama Zealots" guffawed at it. I believe CEO of Chrysler also said it was bull. It was lies. It was false for how Romney was portraying it. It was wrong. It was [insert synonym here that means it did not agree with factual reality]. Larry. Go away now. Ron Paul the libertarian was shut down by the Republicans and then the Republican candidate, despite how much the party tried to buy it out, lost the election. Surprise. Please, accept this and move on. You'll do everyone the favor.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 01-21-2013, 04:27 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
Yes, the US electorate is indeed easily snookered!
People gave up on Bush's economic plans, as such, when offered it by McCain they said NO. When offered a more extreme version by Romney, they said NO! Now, it's possible that there is mind control drugs in the TV, and shampoo, and the dems got ahold of the controls, and all the statistics that state things like 94% of scientists are democratic vs 6% are republican, there being a positive correlation between intelligence and liberal political ideologies, etc. are all BS.
Or they are all real, factual, and correct, as there are so many statistics from so many sources that they aren't connected providing them more academic strength.
Which is more likely?
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 01-22-2013, 02:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 7,381
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTI View Post
An astute observation, since the electorate did not signal an intent to return to former GOP policies on economy or social issues.
Is that your view of the voters intent? So election advertisements were not the reason? Because of the race of the candidates was not a reason? Presidential elections to the voters are about policies? indeed!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 01-23-2013, 10:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: S. Texas
Posts: 1,237
Larry,

What percent of the money that the government loaned to Chrysler has Chrysler paid back?

I think it is about 100%, ergo any money Chrysler invests in China is not tax payer money. So the decision to invest in a burgeoning overseas market sounds like a good capitalistic move to me. Am I right or is this just cleverly disguised socialism plot to bankrupt 'Merika'?
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 01-23-2013, 11:51 AM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by kip Foss View Post
Larry,

What percent of the money that the government loaned to Chrysler has Chrysler paid back?

I think it is about 100%, ergo any money Chrysler invests in China is not tax payer money. So the decision to invest in a burgeoning overseas market sounds like a good capitalistic move to me. Am I right or is this just cleverly disguised socialism plot to bankrupt 'Merika'?

This has ZERO to do with the original post. The whole discussion began as CORRECTLY pointing out that information was suppressed, Chicago Politics style before the election. The OP CORRECTLY pointed out that what was deflected as myth for political purposes, turned out to be true.

I THANK the original poster for bringing it to our attention.

__________________
2001 SLK 320 six speed manual
2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page