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elchivito · #1 01-23-2013, 08:48 PM

whether or not Ted The Draft Dodger Nugent is a douchebag, this should take care of it. He's ready for an armed revolt.

Ted Nugent claims his ‘buddies’ are willing to start an armed revolt | The Raw Story

Botnst · #2 01-23-2013, 09:16 PM

Speaking to fans during an NBC-sponsored gun show, Nugent said that Obama “is attempting to re-implement the tyranny of King George that we escaped from in 1776,” adding: “If you want another Concord bridge, I’ve got some buddies.”
Raw Story (Ted Nugent claims his ‘buddies’ are willing to start an armed revolt | The Raw Story)

If his postulate is true, then the conclusion is more than reasonable. Unless you think the colonists' response to George III was unreasonable.

Jim B. · #3 01-23-2013, 10:16 PM

"Opinions are a result of trashing a lot of good brain cells... and knuckles, aaa.. some burns, stitches, then there was that time when.....".

HuskyMan · #4 01-23-2013, 10:45 PM

Talk is cheap.

Hatterasguy · #5 01-23-2013, 11:35 PM

Meh at least he isn't trying to take away my rights.

t walgamuth · #6 01-24-2013, 06:28 AM

I hope he is treated the same as anybody else by the law enforcment authorities. If I advocated armed insurgence against the country I would expect to be arrested and charged with an appropriate crime.

Botnst · #7 01-24-2013, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I hope he is treated the same as anybody else by the law enforcment authorities. If I advocated armed insurgence against the country I would expect to be arrested and charged with an appropriate crime.

I guess we read different articles. I didn't see where he advocated anything of the sort. Perhaps you would be so kind?

Air&Road · #8 01-24-2013, 07:53 AM

I'm not going to defend his recent actions, but a "draft dodger?"

RadioShowNotes: Ted Nugent Selective Service status

If he is a draft dodger, then that definition could fit hundreds of thousands of people of that time. There might even be a few who post on this board that could be called a draft dodger by the definition applied to the Cat Scratcher, but I would not consider them draft dodgers.

elchivito · #9 01-24-2013, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air&Road

I'm not going to defend his recent actions, but a "draft dodger?"

RadioShowNotes: Ted Nugent Selective Service status

If he is a draft dodger, then that definition could fit hundreds of thousands of people of that time. There might even be a few who post on this board that could be called a draft dodger by the definition applied to the Cat Scratcher, but I would not consider them draft dodgers.

uh huh..

High Times:How did you get out of the draft?

Ted Nugent: Ted was a young boy, appearing to be a hippie but quite opposite in fact, working hard and playing hard, playing rock and roll like a deviant. People would question my sanity, I played so much. So I got my notice to be in the draft. Do you think I was gonna lay down my guitar and go play army? Give me a break! I was busy doin’ it to it. I had a career Jack. If I was walkin’ around, hippying down, getting’ loaded and pickin’ my ass like your common curs, I’d say “Hey yeah, go in the army. Beats the poop out of scuffin’ around in the gutters.” But I wasn’t a gutter dog. I was a hard workin’, mother****in’ rock and roll musician.

I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin’ and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin’ kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I’d drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, piss the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.

See, I approached the whole thing like, Ted Nugent, cool hard-workin’ dude, is gonna wreak havoc on these imbeciles in the armed forces. I’m gonna play their own game, and I’m gonna destroy ‘em. Now my whole body is crusted in poop and piss. I was ill. And three or four days before, I started stayin’ awake. I was close to death, but I was in control. I was extremely antidrug as I’ve always been, but I snorted some crystal methedrine. Talk about one wounded motherf*cker. A guy put up four lines, and it was for all four of us, but I didn’t know and I’m vacuuming that poop right up. I was a walking, talking hunk of human poop. I was six-foot-three of sin. So the guys took me down to the physical, and my nerves, my emotions were distraught. I was not a good person. I was wounded. But as painful and nauseous as it was – ‘cause I was really into bein’ clean and on the ball – I made gutter swine hippies look like football players. I was deviano.

So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn’t believe the smell. They were ridiculin’ me and pushin’ me around and I was cryin’, but all the time I was laughin’ to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, “Oh my God, put those back on! You f*cking swine you!” Then they had a urine test and I couldn’t piss, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin’ up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin’ up. So I went home and cleaned up.

They took a putty knife to me. I got the street rats out of my hair, ate some good steaks, beans, potatoes, cottage cheese, milk. A couple of days and I was ready to kick ass. And in the mail I got this big juicy 4-F. They’d call dead people before they’d call my ass. But you know the funny thing about it? I’d make an incredible army man. I’d be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I’d have the baddest bunch of motherf*ckin’ killers you’d ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn’t into it. I was too busy doin’ my own thing, you know?

Romney supporter Ted Nugent? Pedophile and draft dodger? His own words! - Baltimore liberal | Examiner.com

dynalow · #10 01-24-2013, 09:45 AM

I’d be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I’d have the baddest bunch of motherf*ckin’ killers you’d ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn’t into it. I was too busy doin’ my own thing, you know?

Sure thing Ted!

A colonel? Riiiiiiiiggghhhhhtt!

Air&Road · #11 01-24-2013, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elchivito

uh huh..

High Times:How did you get out of the draft?

Ted Nugent: Ted was a young boy, appearing to be a hippie but quite opposite in fact, working hard and playing hard, playing rock and roll like a deviant. People would question my sanity, I played so much. So I got my notice to be in the draft. Do you think I was gonna lay down my guitar and go play army? Give me a break! I was busy doin’ it to it. I had a career Jack. If I was walkin’ around, hippying down, getting’ loaded and pickin’ my ass like your common curs, I’d say “Hey yeah, go in the army. Beats the poop out of scuffin’ around in the gutters.” But I wasn’t a gutter dog. I was a hard workin’, mother****in’ rock and roll musician.

I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin’ and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin’ kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I’d drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, piss the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.

See, I approached the whole thing like, Ted Nugent, cool hard-workin’ dude, is gonna wreak havoc on these imbeciles in the armed forces. I’m gonna play their own game, and I’m gonna destroy ‘em. Now my whole body is crusted in poop and piss. I was ill. And three or four days before, I started stayin’ awake. I was close to death, but I was in control. I was extremely antidrug as I’ve always been, but I snorted some crystal methedrine. Talk about one wounded motherf*cker. A guy put up four lines, and it was for all four of us, but I didn’t know and I’m vacuuming that poop right up. I was a walking, talking hunk of human poop. I was six-foot-three of sin. So the guys took me down to the physical, and my nerves, my emotions were distraught. I was not a good person. I was wounded. But as painful and nauseous as it was – ‘cause I was really into bein’ clean and on the ball – I made gutter swine hippies look like football players. I was deviano.

So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn’t believe the smell. They were ridiculin’ me and pushin’ me around and I was cryin’, but all the time I was laughin’ to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, “Oh my God, put those back on! You f*cking swine you!” Then they had a urine test and I couldn’t piss, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin’ up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin’ up. So I went home and cleaned up.

They took a putty knife to me. I got the street rats out of my hair, ate some good steaks, beans, potatoes, cottage cheese, milk. A couple of days and I was ready to kick ass. And in the mail I got this big juicy 4-F. They’d call dead people before they’d call my ass. But you know the funny thing about it? I’d make an incredible army man. I’d be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I’d have the baddest bunch of motherf*ckin’ killers you’d ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn’t into it. I was too busy doin’ my own thing, you know?

Romney supporter Ted Nugent? Pedophile and draft dodger? His own words! - Baltimore liberal | Examiner.com

As I said, there were PLENTY of people that did similar things, not as crazy as he did, but were successful in dodging the draft. When I went for my draft physical ca. early '68, it was an eye opener seeing the crap that some people were pulling. For many of those willing to lower themselves to such a depth, it worked.

JB3 · #12 01-24-2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air&Road

As I said, there were PLENTY of people that did similar things, not as crazy as he did, but were successful in dodging the draft. When I went for my draft physical ca. early '68, it was an eye opener seeing the crap that some people were pulling. For many of those willing to lower themselves to such a depth, it worked.

I think its a little sad how easily you can bend your principles. If you didn't happen to agree with Ted Nugents original sentiments, you would be the first person condemning him for the above comments.

Yet here you are starting to make a case for dodging the draft and how its kinda ok since a lot of people did it. Especially after all your posts describing your own military service and personal responsibility in general. Shame on you.

the hypocrisy of it is staggering, similar to your anti-gay rights positions while at the same time claiming you are for the rights of the individual.

Air&Road · #13 01-24-2013, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB3

I think its a little sad how easily you can bend your principles. If you didn't happen to agree with Ted Nugents original sentiments, you would be the first person condemning him for the above comments.

Yet here you are starting to make a case for dodging the draft and how its kinda ok since a lot of people did it. Especially after all your posts describing your own military service and personal responsibility in general. Shame on you.

the hypocrisy of it is staggering, similar to your anti-gay rights positions while at the same time claiming you are for the rights of the individual.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

I make NO excuses and have NO respect for anyone who intentionally dodged the draft. I am not talking about people that got college deferments and other legal and respectful avoidances.

I said in my original post that I am NOT defending his actions. Can't you ****ing read?

E-5, US Army
1968 to 1971

JB3 · #14 01-24-2013, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Air&Road

Are you ****ing kidding me?

I make NO excuses and have NO respect for anyone who intentionally dodged the draft. I am not talking about people that got college deferments and other legal and respectful avoidances.

I said in my original post that I am NOT defending his actions. Can't you ****ing read?

E-5, US Army
1968 to 1971

Yes, I certainly can read.

Quote:

I'm not going to defend his recent actions, but a "draft dodger?"

If he is a draft dodger, then that definition could fit hundreds of thousands of people of that time. There might even be a few who post on this board that could be called a draft dodger by the definition applied to the Cat Scratcher, but I would not consider them draft dodgers.

You state you are not defending his actions, but you are certainly making a case for apologizing for them because "that definition could fit hundreds of thousands of people at that time".

My point is that if this guy had any other initial opinion, you would be the first to crucify him based on the method of avoiding draft that he himself describes in that quote, yet thats not what you are doing. You don't see the hypocrisy? I guess not.

Air&Road · #15 01-24-2013, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB3

Yes, I certainly can read.

You state you are not defending his actions, but you are certainly making a case for apologizing for them because "that definition could fit hundreds of thousands of people at that time".

My point is that if this guy had any other initial opinion, you would be the first to crucify him based on the method of avoiding draft that he himself describes in that quote, yet thats not what you are doing. You don't see the hypocrisy? I guess not.

You have no idea what the **** you're talking about. 45 years ago I had SERIOUS problems with ANYONE who avoided the draft by most any means. I gave up three years of my life while the hair heads were back home smokin' dope and having all kinds of illicit fun.

Over the years, I have come to know that some of them were sincere in their thinking. Most of them were not, but I learned to give many of them the benefit of the doubt thinking that maybe by now they realize that they should have done something different. I realize that this is likely a concept that you have no understanding of, but it is called forgiveness.

How about YOU? For all I know, YOU are one of the misguided "draft dodgers" of '68 just like ol' Ted.

Most likely you are younger. If there were a draft in force and a shooting war going on when YOU were 19, what would YOU have done? Hmmm?