Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-03-2013, 08:22 PM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 27,419
RC throws Mahony under the bus

L.A. archbishop relieves retired cardinal of duties
Quote:
A first round of 14 priest files made public in Los Angeles nearly two weeks ago showed that Mahony and other top officials maneuvered behind the scenes to shield molester priests, provide damage control for the church and keep parishioners in the dark about sexual abuse in their parishes. Those documents, released as part of an unrelated civil lawsuit, were not redacted and provided a glimpse of what could be contained in the larger release.
When at least one of these SOB's actually serves jail time for conspiracy (I think that would apply right?) and accessory then may be they will have a little credibility. Until then, they are no better than the rest of the slimy pedophiles.

__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-03-2013, 08:34 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,355
Exactly what I thought when I read that a couple of days ago. The Church knew all this stuff years ago yet only act on it when it becomes public. In this particular instance, since Mahoney deliberately sent priests to NM for counseling to avoid the reporting to police which was required in CA, I would think prosecution under organized crime statutes would be in order.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-03-2013, 08:55 PM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 27,419
I tried to give you some time to post this but you dropped the ball again so I had to do your work for you again.... You need to step your game up.

I agree with the prosecution idea. I am tired of people like Mahoney getting a pass while children suffered at their hands with full knowledge of the hierarchy. On top of that they initiated a cover up and allowed even more children to be raped by these bastards. I say, prosecute and if found guilty, put the SOB's in general population and let them find out what it's like.

The other thing that confuses me is why this country is protecting these people. The parishioners seem to be accepting this. The fact that there are no protests and mass exodus from the RC is mind boggling.

For those who question why more people are not protesting in the ME (many many are) you may want to ask the same questions of any Roman Catholic you happen to meet. How can they support a criminal organization that preys on children and protects the rapists?
__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-03-2013, 09:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,355
I apologize for falling down on my job. I am acquainted with a priest who left the church over this.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-03-2013, 09:09 PM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 27,419
Yea, well... don't let it happen again.

Stepping down is not enough. It's a step in the right direction but voices need to be heard. They need to be yelling at the top of their lungs. Kids are being raped and no one seems to give a crap. This has been going on for 20-40 years that we know of (probably far far longer) and the church is still in business. WTF??????
__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-03-2013, 10:34 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmash View Post
Yea, well... don't let it happen again.

Stepping down is not enough. It's a step in the right direction but voices need to be heard. They need to be yelling at the top of their lungs. Kids are being raped and no one seems to give a crap. This has been going on for 20-40 years that we know of (probably far far longer) and the church is still in business. WTF??????
Stepping down is a step in the right direction? Surely you jest. The leadership is rotten to the core all the way to the last and current pope. What is the firing of one low man on the totem pole supposed to do? I bust you for murder and you admit to running a red light. Seriously?
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-03-2013, 10:55 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,355
It was a step in the right direction for the priest who quit. He had some integrity.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-04-2013, 12:20 AM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerry View Post
It was a step in the right direction for the priest who quit. He had some integrity.
Had he stepped down way back when, I might have agreed with you. Today, it is too little, too late. Once the thing blows up, your stepping down is little more than a lame attempt at an apology. IF he wants to apologize, do it the Hari Kiri way and I will say it is a sincere apology.

A show of integrity is confessing or stepping down when there is no hint of getting caught. Once it comes to light and the crap is about to hit the fan, confession or stepping down is merely an attempt to distance oneself from the issue or mitigate the ill feelings.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-04-2013, 12:41 AM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 27,419
There was no indication in Kerry's post that the acquaintance was guilty of any crime. He was not at risk of being caught for anything. He was a priest in the RC. There was no indication in Kerry's post that he knew anything about what was going on with Mahoney or the Diocese. I do not see his stepping down as an apology for anything but as an acknowledgement that he was part of something (the RC) that lost it's way and was doing bad things. I believe you are condemning a man with out any evidence and no cause.

I believe he should be speaking out now if he is not and speaking loudly.
__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-04-2013, 12:48 AM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmash View Post
There was no indication in Kerry's post that the acquaintance was guilty of any crime. He was not at risk of being caught for anything. He was a priest in the RC. There was no indication in Kerry's post that he knew anything about what was going on with Mahoney or the Diocese. I do not see his stepping down as an apology for anything but as an acknowledgement that he was part of something (the RC) that lost it's way and was doing bad things. I believe you are condemning a man with out any evidence and no cause.

I believe he should be speaking out now if he is not and speaking loudly.
Seeing as how the RC church has been trying to play games from day 1 and the fact that Curry, who stepped down is a key aide to Mahoney, do you believe that he suddenly found out about it today or has knowledge about it previously? It's not like he is some low man on the totem pole priest. He was a key aide. All the way up to the pope, the church has been trying to bury this. When it fails, they try to declare bankruptcy so they can avoid paying for damages. Sorry but I am having a really hard time having the words "RC Church" and "Integrity" in the same sentence and have it sound favorable.

It's really hard to give that group the benefit of the doubt seeing their history. It would be easier to give YOU the benefit of the doubt if my wallet was missing right after you visited me than someone or some group with that track record.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-04-2013, 01:04 AM
davidmash's Avatar
Supercalifragilisticexpia
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 27,419
Perhaps we are speaking of two different people. I was referring to the acquaintance of Kerry, not Curry or Mahoney.
__________________
Sent from an agnostic abacus

2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-04-2013, 01:13 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 3,789
I have more use for an automatic transmission than I do for the Catholic Church, or any other religion.
__________________
Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 367,xxx miles
08 Triumph Street Triple 30,xxx miles, lowered 10mm in front, Pirelli Angel GT tires, EBC HH brake pads, otherwise stock.
88 Jaguar XJS V12 93,xxx miles. I should be in the garage now.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-04-2013, 07:45 AM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,649
Yes, all Churches are exactly like the Catholic Church.
__________________
2 Thessalonians 3:10
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-04-2013, 10:30 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,355
Parishioner makes a good point about denying Mass to the divorced while the Mass is served by criminals:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/us/hispanic-parishioners-grapple-with-church-scandal.html
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-04-2013, 10:49 AM
Fold on dotted line
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SE Mich
Posts: 3,196
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmash View Post
I
For those who question why more people are not protesting in the ME (many many are) you may want to ask the same questions of any Roman Catholic you happen to meet. How can they support a criminal organization that preys on children and protects the rapists?
Consider also the fact that the parishioners who assumed their church collections were going for helping the poor and needy were actually going for multi-million dollar settlements because the Church didn't want the insurance companies to find out.

It's time to sweep all this clean.

This is what Martin Luther did in the Reformation

__________________
Strelnik
Invest in America: Buy a Congressman!

1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page