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Old 02-04-2013, 06:45 PM
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Wouldn't of worked if it was "Two Minute Tommy".
I bet there are a few out there that have been called a "Two-second Timmy."

Or...a "Three-thecond Thilly." (groooooooan.....)

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Old 02-04-2013, 07:15 PM
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Since when or where in the provided links or the posts to this thread has anyone except yourself make the implication that convicted criminals don't have every right to express their opinions? Coddle much?
I don't coddle at all. I merely asked the question. If that's not the implication, what exactly IS the implication?
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:03 PM
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I fanally read the Article. "We know that guns are being sold on the floor inside Hara Arena illegally" said Jerome McCorry. "No background checks no identification of any kind."

You would think that they would be able to Sue someone for saying they were doing something against the Law.
If it went to Court it might be covered by the Media and his Criminal Past re-exposed.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:14 PM
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I fanally read the Article. "We know that guns are being sold on the floor inside Hara Arena illegally" said Jerome McCorry. "No background checks no identification of any kind." ... You would think that they would be able to Sue someone for saying they were doing something against the Law.
Better yet, IF they really knew ANYTHING AT ALL, wouldn't they be complicit in the act of the gun(s) being sold ILLEGALLY if they FAILED TO REPORT IT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES????? I call B*llsh!t on McCorry. IF he knew of illegal sales, he didn't do anything about it. He's as guilty as those he claims are guilty.

That's why, when comments/stories like this are bantered about as if they were true, in reality, they aren't. It's a lot of "Henny-Pennys" running around and screaming that "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

At any of the gun shows I've attended over the years, I've watched dealer after dealer go out to a public phone (the area where the shows are at has really sucky cell-service) and call in each and every purchase they have to deal with. Sometimes, there were 5 or more dealers standing in line, some with more than 2 or 3 applications, waiting for the dealer in front to finish up before moving on.

McCorrey is an anti-gun hack. Period.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:44 PM
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I don't think a legally owned AK47 or M16 has ever been used by a civilian in the US for any crime.

The Hollywood bank shoot out was done with NFA prohibited spend at least 10 years in pound me in the a** federal jail AK's.

So clearly firearms laws work!
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:01 PM
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I used to attend the Bill Goodman show multiple times through the years...I haven't seen anything shady happen, with the exception of a few switchblades in the early 1990's.

The last one I attended was in 2011, right after moving to this side of the Mississippi. I was in town visiting the family, and my brother and I decided to go to the show...all gun sales were going through legal channels, with background checks being made. The only possible sales made without background checks were personal sales.

People seem to think that all guns going into the shows by spectators are guns that are for sale...most of them wind up being taken in as trade in for something new, which generates a background check. Very few sales at shows come in under the radar...most show promoters that I'm aware of (shows I've attended) prohibit parking lot sales.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:49 PM
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I don't coddle at all. I merely asked the question. If that's not the implication, what exactly IS the implication?

I suspect that any literate person with an average level of objectivity would pretty easily come to the conclusion that the original post and the included links imply that the reporting of this circumstance was negligent and devoid of due diligence on the part of the media.

The fact that Jerome McCorry the organizer and leader of the small group of anti-2ndAmendment protesters outside the gun show is a convicted violent sexual predator and founder/CEO of a convicted criminal support organization is no less relevant than who supports the NRA! Is it not?

You've made the unsupported claim and concurred when others have made the same unsupported claim that the NRA is "bought and sold" by lawful gun manufacturers and sellers, impugning their motivations and the integrity of the NRA's declared mission. How can it be any less relevant to expose and examine the motivations of the convicted violent sexual predators and convicted felons and the integrity of their organization to understand the extent to which it has been "bought and sold" to propagate their/its anti 2nd Amendment messaging?

You seem to have incorrectly inferred that some have opined that Jerome McCorry's status as a convicted violent sexual predator should limit his speech, but you have thus far been unwilling or incapable of articulating the basis in facts upon which you've drawn that incorrect inference.

The issue is that McCorry presenting himself as a spokesperson/activist; rather than having bestowed upon him the imprimatur of civilized authority and popular opinion in the interest of honest discourse McCorry should be treated to an appropriate degree of skeptical inquiry and even subjected to questions such as "If the victim who you have been convicted of violently sexually assaulting had been armed with the firearm of their choosing, would you be here today?", "Mr. McCorry speaking as a convicted violent sexual predator, why do you want to deny potential future rape victims their constitutionally protected right to use more than a set number of magazined rounds to shoot you into your head in defense of their life, and liberty? Do you personally object to your potential victim shooting you more or less than 30 rounds in defense of their life and liberty?", "Jerome, is your experience is it easier to rape armed or unarmed victims?", "Is it the consensus of the Adam Project's experienced convicted criminal constituency that armed citizens are easier or more difficult to victimize?"

After all McCorry's credentials are directly related to the violent sexual pedatory assault he was convicted of and served time for. Pretty safe to assume his victim was not able to avail her or himself to constitutionally protected 2nd Amendment defense if life and liberty via personally owned firearm at the time of the assault.

Maybe there could be a follow-up investigation to determine exactly how much taxpayer funding the Reverend and his flock receive from the likes of Eric Holder and Obama's DOJ in support of the “reintegration back into society efforts” of the Adam Project, maybe even an examination of the data to determine if there exists any statistical evidence of progress or success at that effort. Maybe a review of the financial records to ensure that the Reverend has not been misdirecting funding to engage in his anti-2nd Amendment proselytization!
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:17 PM
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There's nothing "wrong" with the gun mfgrs buying the NRA. That's just good business.

I just want to keep reminding folks who the NRA REALLY works for.

So that noboby ever gets to believe they are somehow unbiased or actually care about their members, without being reminded.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:22 PM
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There's nothing "wrong" with the gun mfgrs buying the NRA. That's just good business.

I just want to keep reminding folks who the NRA REALLY works for.

So that noboby ever gets to believe they are somehow unbiased or actually care about their members, without being reminded.
Got any of that "proof" stuff or are you just still puking the pablum?
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:24 PM
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There's nothing "wrong" with the gun mfgrs buying the NRA. That's just good business.

I just want to keep reminding folks who the NRA REALLY works for.

So that noboby ever gets to believe they are somehow unbiased or actually care about their members, without being reminded.
That is true.

(Unfortunately.)

And I never saw Wayne LaPierre's name on my ballot either. Not ever.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:30 PM
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Got any of that "proof" stuff or are you just still puking the pablum?
"It’s not even that he’s the first president since Roosevelt and his National Firearms Act of 1934 to take on the nation’s hissing cult of gun fetishists so directly, the ghosts of 20 massacred school children at his back (not to mention the more than 1100 others who have been gunned down since Sandy Hook), the pinched, blood-red faces of bloated white guys from the NRA all wishing him dead."

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"It’s not even that he’s the first president since Roosevelt and his National Firearms Act of 1934 to take on the nation’s hissing cult of gun fetishists so directly, the ghosts of 20 massacred school children at his back (not to mention the more than 1100 others who have been gunned down since Sandy Hook), the pinched, blood-red faces of bloated white guys from the NRA all wishing him dead."

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Got any of that "proof" stuff or are you just still puking the pablum?
Yeah, I am also looking forward to seeing that evidence. Maybe it will come along with the ACTUAL clay targets that Obama was shooting The "rifle" at in the photo op picture this weekend.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:14 AM
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You've made the unsupported claim and concurred when others have made the same unsupported claim that the NRA is "bought and sold" by lawful gun manufacturers and sellers, impugning their motivations and the integrity of the NRA's declared mission.
Lotta words in your post.

Unsupported claims? I'll refer you to the NRA's corporate donor list I posted. You can find it if you care to look.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:29 AM
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The pro gun folks are like the man with a hammer as his only tool (everything starts looking like a nail!).

Every situation can be solved with a gun.

I can see a few potential pitfalls in the shooting a rapist on the spot thing.....suppose nobody will confirm the rape was happening?
I think when you are being raped you have confirmation!

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