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Last December 21 the Office of Management and Budget issued a statement that the Budget would not be out until March at the earliest.

Until the House decided what to do about the sequestration issue, and until the House made a decision on raising the debt limit, it was impossible for the different Federal agencies to turn in their budget projections.

As those of us that are paying attention might recall: The House is controlled by Republicans who have stated that their number one goal is to make the President fail.

Looks like they are off to a good start!
Sorry, the president submits (supposed to submit) the first draft. A politically devious president submits excuses such as you describe instead.

Of course when the budget is your weak point you divert attention to things like gun control and immigration instead.

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Ahh, sure, what the hell, I'll throw my two cents in, while I'm waiting for call backs on applications.
The budget isn't his weak point. In fact, everyone was claiming that's what got him all the votes to be re-elected, I thought. How is the budget a weak point?
Also, it's hard to decide on a budget when the first thing your opponents will do is throw a wrench into the works just to make sure it won't work. It's one thing to be running for president and to hold back what you would propose as a potential budget so that you can't be attacked for being a cold heartless "If they are sick, they need to just go to the ER and let them sort it all out" kind of prick. (Please, no one remember the fact that Romney and Ryan refused to release their proposed budgets. Also, let's just assume that they couldn't hammer out a proposed budget for the simple fact they were too busy making "Day 1" promises to try and pull more votes from a shrinking voter base that thinks conservatives are a bit whacko, and not even the republicans realize that Libertarians are a kind of crazy not even THEY want to deal with.)
It's another thing when you go to make a budget and your opponent is in charge of the the all the machinery you'd need to make it work. They tell you "Why haven't you gotten out onto the trapeze yet?!" As you look up and seem gremlins in the mix sawing at support beams, cutting into the ropes holding the trapeze up, and burning the circus safety net below you. "C'mon! We want to see the show! And if you fall, it's you OWN fault! We hold no responsibility for it!" All the while, you over hear the guy grumbling over the mic about how he thinks this guy up on the platform is going to somehow "annihilate" him. "Remove him completely from the history of the United States." So, with thoughts like these, then it's justified SELF DEFENSE when he's trying to pull the rug out from under this guy he wants to just jump out there and let things land where they'll fall.

Seriously, the republicans are kind of pushing the "We just want to make the president look bad at EVERY and ANY cost" rhetoric to whole new dlcklsh levels. And I guess that includes atleast one libertarian in the mix.
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Ahh, sure, what the hell, I'll throw my two cents in, while I'm waiting for call backs on applications.
The budget isn't his weak point. In fact, everyone was claiming that's what got him all the votes to be re-elected, I thought. How is the budget a weak point?
Also, it's hard to decide on a budget when the first thing your opponents will do is throw a wrench into the works just to make sure it won't work. It's one thing to be running for president and to hold back what you would propose as a potential budget so that you can't be attacked for being a cold heartless "If they are sick, they need to just go to the ER and let them sort it all out" kind of prick. (Please, no one remember the fact that Romney and Ryan refused to release their proposed budgets. Also, let's just assume that they couldn't hammer out a proposed budget for the simple fact they were too busy making "Day 1" promises to try and pull more votes from a shrinking voter base that thinks conservatives are a bit whacko, and not even the republicans realize that Libertarians are a kind of crazy not even THEY want to deal with.)
It's another thing when you go to make a budget and your opponent is in charge of the the all the machinery you'd need to make it work. They tell you "Why haven't you gotten out onto the trapeze yet?!" As you look up and seem gremlins in the mix sawing at support beams, cutting into the ropes holding the trapeze up, and burning the circus safety net below you. "C'mon! We want to see the show! And if you fall, it's you OWN fault! We hold no responsibility for it!" All the while, you over hear the guy grumbling over the mic about how he thinks this guy up on the platform is going to somehow "annihilate" him. "Remove him completely from the history of the United States." So, with thoughts like these, then it's justified SELF DEFENSE when he's trying to pull the rug out from under this guy he wants to just jump out there and let things land where they'll fall.

Seriously, the republicans are kind of pushing the "We just want to make the president look bad at EVERY and ANY cost" rhetoric to whole new dlcklsh levels. And I guess that includes atleast one libertarian in the mix.



He raises the debt by $6T in only four years after saying in 2008 about GW running up $4T in 8 years:

July 3, 2008: Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic - YouTube

and then you indicate that someone trying to balk at him getting even more carried away with what our kids and grandkids will owe is nothing but simply blocking?

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Seriously, the republicans are kind of pushing the "We just want to make the president look bad at EVERY and ANY cost" rhetoric to whole new dlcklsh levels. And I guess that includes atleast one libertarian in the mix.
0bama doesn't need anyone to help him look bad. He does a fine job of it all by himself.......
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Sorry, the president submits (supposed to submit) the first draft. A politically devious president submits excuses such as you describe instead.

Of course when the budget is your weak point you divert attention to things like gun control and immigration instead.
Sorry, but when the President says he must have something to do his job, and the House Republicans refuse to provide it, then it appears the Republicans have some explaining to do.

Like the Speaker yesterday whining about 'how could this happen?' He knows how it took place, and for him to pretend he is clueless about the process just makes him look like a Republican. Phony outrage is a poor replacement for doing your job, but I guess some people love it because it allows them to get all outraged as well.

If a person were really upset about this budget delay one would think that person would try to understand the why of it and not just start whining and wringing their hands. But whining and hand wringing is really all some Republicans are after because the truth is not important; it is the truth you create that is important.

Someday the Republican will understand that they were elected to do the will of the people and not to rule as they see fit. I heard a Republican talking this morning about how everything has to be focus grouped before it can be used and the main problem the Republican Party has is that some Republicans refuse to use the focus group findings and insist on stating their own mind on the issues.

Nope. That's not the problem, but if they want to keep thinking that then it is OK with me.
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0bama doesn't need anyone to help him look bad. He does a fine job of it all by himself.......
Oh did his approval ratings slip?
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Sorry, but when the President says he must have something to do his job, and the House Republicans refuse to provide it, then it appears the Republicans have some explaining to do.

Like the Speaker yesterday whining about 'how could this happen?' He knows how it took place, and for him to pretend he is clueless about the process just makes him look like a Republican. Phony outrage is a poor replacement for doing your job, but I guess some people love it because it allows them to get all outraged as well.

If a person were really upset about this budget delay one would think that person would try to understand the why of it and not just start whining and wringing their hands. But whining and hand wringing is really all some Republicans are after because the truth is not important; it is the truth you create that is important.

Someday the Republican will understand that they were elected to do the will of the people and not to rule as they see fit. I heard a Republican talking this morning about how everything has to be focus grouped before it can be used and the main problem the Republican Party has is that some Republicans refuse to use the focus group findings and insist on stating their own mind on the issues.

Nope. That's not the problem, but if they want to keep thinking that then it is OK with me.

What you fail or refuse to realize is that there are two sides to this coin. We are fortunate to have a republican controlled congress which gives us a chance to keep this tax and spend king in check. It is a very small chance, but at least a chance to keep the king from totally bankrupting this country.
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Oh did his approval ratings slip?
No one should care at ALL about his ratings slipping. What ALL Americans should be worried about is how he is letting the country slip over the cliff. $16.6T in debt and growing at a rate of about $1T per year.

Everyone should be scared shiltless about 46 cents of every dollar being spent is borrowed. So many people not being worried about this makes it appear that about half of the populace is incapable of understanding fourth grade math.
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Americans expressed their concern a few months back, in what many here said is the only poll that matters.
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The president missed submitting his budget on the due date which is the first Monday in February. Why am I not surprised?

Sure would be nice to see some Presidential leadership. With the economy being such a bad issue for him, it is no surprise that he is only talking about things like gun control and whether or not to let his son play football. I guess he would rather his daughters serve in combat than his son play football.
Is there a law requiring the Prez to submit a budget by Feb. 01?
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Is there a law requiring the Prez to submit a budget by Feb. 01?
No law, and the date is not Feb 1. The government schedule is for the president to submit his budget draft the first Monday in February.

Professionals commonly adhere to their schedules. Of course a king can do as he pleases I guess.

I have to submit my annual budget before the end of our Fiscal year, submit monthly reports on time and so forth. There are zillions of people all over the country who adhere to such schedules in order to show their character, keep their boss happy and keep their jobs. The president works for the biggest chump of a boss that anyone could have, the US electorate. The majority of them are so busy having their Obamagasms that they don't hold him to his schedule and he doesn't have enough character to voluntarily abide by it. When you are a legend in your own mind and operate like a king you do as you please.
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The prez (along with most congressman) are above all us LB. If you think the prez is slow submitting his budget stuff now wait till his third term starts.
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Let me see, by the beginning of his third term, the debt will be up to about $22T. He will REALLY be dodging the submission of a budget then!
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Is there a law requiring the Prez to submit a budget by Feb. 01?
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No law, and the date is not Feb 1. The government schedule is for the president to submit his budget draft the first Monday in February.



Professionals commonly adhere to their schedules. Of course a king can do as he pleases I guess.



I have to submit my annual budget before the end of our Fiscal year, submit monthly reports on time and so forth. There are zillions of people all over the country who adhere to such schedules in order to show their character, keep their boss happy and keep their jobs. The president works for the biggest chump of a boss that anyone could have, the US electorate. The majority of them are so busy having their Obamagasms that they don't hold him to his schedule and he doesn't have enough character to voluntarily abide by it. When you are a legend in your own mind and operate like a king you do as you please.


Homey say, in pursuit of the social justice denied to so many, for far too long, Affirmative Action mandates that minority, historically underserved, victims of injustice and white privilege Presidents are afforded the leeway to uphold only 80% of the statutory obligations that President Whitey Man is obligated to uphold. Homey da Clown don't play dat get da job done on schedule an on time ****!


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