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The intellectual honesty is quite welcome here!
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There are some realities that people have a hard time looking at - death, suffering being chief among them. Since audiences find that disturbing, a lot of press is "sanitized" for widespread consumption. Its done before the press even gets their hands on it though - it started in Vietnam when there was a PR nightmare over the gory images coming across television screens and newspapers. It certainly contributed to the domestic reaction of the war, and caused the U.S. to completely rethink press strategies going forward. In Grenada there was virtually no true press presence, everything came from the military press release office. In gulf war I, they had reporters over there, but nobody really got access to anything so again, not too many in-your-face images. In Gulf War II here, they switched to embedded journalism which has been hit-and-miss in that sense. Still a lack of access to images and info but there is a lot more of it. The images used to represent stories are often devoid of any blood, bodies, or any actual "reality" of the war. One of my colleagues in the grad program was a Major in the Army who ran the PR office for them out of Afghanistan, he always had some interesting stories about this stuff. Larry's "out of sight out of mind" thing just triggered the response even though its admittedly a bit off topic.
My thesis is loosely around this phenomenon in regard to the OBL killing.
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I suppose the "In your living room" attitude of coverage ( such as it was) during VN days may have been related to some degree to the fact that we had a draft then. Today, we don't and 98% of most folks don't really GAS. So, why would any govt. want to expose them to the grim reality of war? Out of sight and out of mind. Let me wage my war. |
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Sanitizing the coverage is a win-win for media and government who is running an unpopular war. Media audiences aren't going to be subjected to uncomfortable images (and therefore they'll be inclined to keep watching...if they turn it off its not because of that), and the government can continue to offer whatever narrative they want since its a blurred reality. There are instances where the lack of visuality makes people very uncomfortable and distrustful, such as the case of OBL when there were no images released of the raid or his body.
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Oh, I believe both sides of the aisle realized there was no footage (And we do assume it exists, or what is Obama staring at in that momentous photo of them all in that situation room) aired of OBL's death. Now, the Dems, mostly I believe, just passed it off because, Look at this guy? He just TOOK OUT Osama Bin Laden, something that Bush had already somehow declared Mission Accomplished on in somehow stopping OBL's reign of terror, yet, surprise, Mission not Accomplished. The reps then wanted to say it was fake, it was a hoax, etc. etc. That got quiet real quick when the possibility of showing the footage on national TV would make them look worse than fools.
To be honest, I am more of a pacifist, as I disagree with alot of the fighting going on in the world (MOSTLY because of the reasons for them and the seemingly senseless amounts of violence) but I am not entirely a pacifist. I feel that when a target that has had so much negative influence on our country, on the WORLD, has been located, they need to be taken out or captured with as little violence and bloodshed as possible. Going in with a drone, or going in with a helicopter and a small team to take down a whole compound is far more preferred than invading a WHOLE COUNTRY, toppling a "regime" that existed there, turning over every stone, and finding out the man you said was there, the weapons you said were there (that post facto the intelligence reports ALSO said you KNEW they were NOT there) was not there at all, all while trying to take out that single man? Thousands upon Thousands of deaths. Yes, you need to keep THAT grim reality out of the news because then EVERYONE realizes, including the ones who were on your side supporting you throughout it all, how inhumane that all really was and is. It may seem less humane to some idiots out there that you take out a confirmed target with a drone strike and move on, but I feel given the surgical precision, it's better than deploy numerous aircraft to carpet bomb a city just to take out a single target. There's less civilian death, less personnel death, less property damage, less collateral damage overall. As for the media, I believe it needs to be aired, publicly, and widely, that YES! This drone just ENDED a human life. That YES! this one man had caused mass graves and hundreds of other deaths. All of it need be shown so people are NOT desensitized or sanitized to the facts of the world. Crime, once committed, war once it is waged, shall not be omitted from the media. There needs to be transparency to the people. Maybe once everyone starts to realize that all the nasty bits gov't and regimes and organizations an everything else wants to hide to make themselves seem the good guys, then less senseless violence and bloodshed will occur. |
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You're killin' me Bot! how do you come up with this stuff?
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Will you pop a little extra for me?
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I guess you don't get radio or television reception in your moms basement! I'm sure that someone from your age group and (lack of) education level will believe what you say, so you will get your stipend from the obama for god foundation, but how are you going to pay for your own health insurance when you get the boot from mom at age 26? Can you say "useful idiot"?
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