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JB3 02-08-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rs899 (Post 3096738)
I wish there were more people who think like you and I , but evidently not enough to build one car for, at least not here in the US.

With all the tweaking they have done over the last few years to squeeze horsepower out, you would think they could produce a 1.0 litre gas engine that could produce 100-120 hp and drive a small practical light car. Basically update the cars we had in the early 80s after the gas embargos and wars.

make that x3.

What I don't understand is the misidentification of the target market. Even a cursory take on the TDI scene in this country demonstrates that the manual versions get the better economy, command a higher price, and instantly resell since everyone wants them. If you are into small economy diesels, you are into manual gearbox's. Since this vehicle is one of the only direct competitors to the TDI brands, how can they make that mistake? The first version available in this country should have been manual. Hopefully they remedy this issue before sales on the car demonstrate a tepid response.

For example, id be all over this car if it came in a stick, I love chevy, and I like domestic products, and other modern chevy vehicles ive been extremely pleased with, apart from their inability to achieve high economy. How they made that mistake simply boggles the mind. They've produced a car thats more expensive, less economical, and doesn't appeal to everyone who loves great fuel economy.

Still going to try and get the GF to look at one though.

TX76513 02-08-2013 09:40 AM

I own a VW TDI and have have had a Cruz Rental. The marrying of a diesel in a Cruz does not even get me exicited, just painting the pig.

JB3 02-08-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TX76513 (Post 3096745)
I own a VW TDI and have have had a Cruz Rental. The marrying of a diesel in a Cruz does not even get me exicited, just painting the pig.

I loved the cobalt. How would you say it compares to that older model?

Never been in a cruze, but as much as I love the TDI, I do find those cars a bit cramped. Ironic considering my DD 86 Mk2, but when safety features are dispensed with, you have a lot more interior room :D

JB3 02-08-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 3096739)
It's not going to get a manual. :(.

I'm sure we could get better than 42mpg. Stick a scan gauge on it and drive! Soon as my dealer gets them in, I'm going to test drive then.


where did you see this? I haven't found a specific on what transmissions will be available in the diesel variant. I even signed up for the newsletter to see what they say

Zulfiqar 02-08-2013 09:52 AM

the mpg difference would be a lot higher as we diesel users know, real world mileage in a gas engine car differs a lot from the white window sticker.

OTOH - the diesel benz's get approximately their claimed mpg all day long even after decades of service, speaking of experience of owning a 2.5L nissan altima with cvt slushie machine, they promise way north of 30 mpg, I could never ever get more than 25 out of it, even with A/C off, tires filled to max, no cargo, no passenger, barely touching the throttle - doing 60 mph constant with the rpm at about 1900 for hours on end.

As soon as this hits the market, Im going to test one and the diesel mazda too.

spdrun 02-08-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JB3 (Post 3096749)
where did you see this? I haven't found a specific on what transmissions will be available in the diesel variant. I even signed up for the newsletter to see what they say

TSOR on Google. This being said, they may release a manual in a few months -- typically, they EPA certify the engine/transmission combo with an autotragic first, since there's more of a market for it.

JB3 02-08-2013 10:03 AM

no stick confirmed, my web chat with chevy-


Welcome to Chevrolet. Please wait while we find an agent to assist you... [You are now chatting with Beth.]

09:49:54Beth:Hello! Thank you for contacting Chevrolet. My name is Beth , how may I help you today?

09:50:42Customer:Hi Beth. Im curios if you can tell me what transmission options will be available in the 2014 cruze diesel. Im specifically interested in whether or not it will have a manual option

09:51:03Beth:Thanks for your question! Please allow me a few moments to locate some information for you.

09:52:22Customer: ok, thanks

09:52:49Beth:You are welcome. I show that the Transmission for the 2014 Cruze diesel will be a six-speed automatic.

09:53:55Customer:are there any plans to release a manual version eventually? It will only be available with the 6-speed automatic?

09:54:26Beth:I will send you a website that has more information about the 2014 Cruze. http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/cruze-diesel/2014.html?id=1360335228794

09:54:51Beth:Unfortunately, I only show that the vehicle will be offered with a six speed automatic transmission.

09:55:01Customer: ok, thanks for your time!

09:56:01Beth:You are welcome. You may sign up for e-mail updates on the following website: Sign up for Chevrolet Email Updates.

09:56:34Customer:I have done so, thanks!

rs899 02-08-2013 10:09 AM

you should have ended with "please convey my extreme disappointment to anyone who gives a $ht in the Corporate Offices."

We'll just keep driving our Mk2 Jetta IDIs, I guess

Hatterasguy 02-08-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by catmandoo62 (Post 3096714)
it's more expensive then a tdi jetta and gets worse milage.BUT it can get to 60 mph faster.ooohh baby!i want one.NOT. the big 3 just will not get the horsepower war out of their a$$'$ i do not care if it takes me 10 minutes to get to 60 give me 60-70 mpg and i'm fine with that.

By big 3 do you mean BMW, Mercedes, and Audi? Because that's the only HP war going on right now outside of the sports cars.

JB3 02-08-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rs899 (Post 3096765)
you should have ended with "please convey my extreme disappointment to anyone who gives a $ht in the Corporate Offices."

We'll just keep driving our Mk2 Jetta IDIs, I guess


I did ask beth to convey a comment to the sales department for me.

I said that they have misidentified the American compact car diesel owner as being concerned with HP and 1/4 mile times. I said that I own a 30 year old 50 hp vehicle, and the only number I care about is miles per gallon, and my square antique will still blow this 2014 vehicle out of the water in economy by 5mpg or more and is still capable of modern road driving, despite having 100 less HP than the new cruze diesel. With all the technology donated towards making this vehicle faster than the TDI, they should have instead worked on making them far more efficient, simple, and reliable, and then they could watch the orders roll in.

spdrun 02-08-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JB3 (Post 3096761)
no stick confirmed, my web chat with chevy-

The chat with the salesdroid (probably in India, not Indiana) doesn't speak to the eventual release of anything. She probably just has a computer and electronic spec sheet in front of her, and can't speak to anything outside the spec sheet.

JB3 02-08-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3096778)
The chat with the salesdroid (probably in India, not Indiana) doesn't speak to the eventual release of anything. She probably just has a computer and electronic spec sheet in front of her, and can't speak to anything outside the spec sheet.

no doubt you are correct. I assumed her/his real name is Singh. However, with just the spec sheet and advertisements, still informative

Txjake 02-08-2013 10:57 AM

How much to refill the urea tank?

t walgamuth 02-08-2013 11:04 AM

Just drink plenty of coffee or beer and unzip and let fly!:P

(prolly not).

DieselPaul 02-08-2013 11:21 AM

It'll probably do better than 42, the Mercedes Bluetecs and the Jetta TDIs all seem to get a chunk above their EPA rating.


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