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Old 02-07-2013, 10:10 PM
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Unveiled at today's Chicago Auto Show, Chevrolet says the new version of the Cruze powered by a 2-liter, four-cylinder turbo diesel will offer buyers 42 mpg on the highway and a range of 650 miles between fill-ups. With 148 hp and 258 ft-lb of torque, Chevy claims the Cruze Clean Turbo Diesel it's proper name, a bit of over-eager marketing will outrun its major competitor, the Volkswagen Jetta TDI, reaching 60 mph in 8.6 seconds.
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With gas prices already rising well before the typical summer surge, the Cruze diesel may have arrived just in time. But Chevy will have to sell the Cruze diesel on its benefits, thanks to a starting sticker price of $25,695, about $2,600 more than a base Jetta TDI and $2,000 more than a top-line gas-powered Cruze. If Chevy can score with a diesel-powered version of its mainstream compact sedan, expect many others to follow close behind.


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Old 02-07-2013, 10:14 PM
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Cripple-o-matic transmission appears mandatory, even if you're not an amputee. (And probably not even a dual-clutch box, but a normal slushbox.)

I'm also surprised at the 42 mpg highway figure. Doesn't their ECO gas model already get high-30s/low-40s highway.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:51 PM
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A gas Chevy Cruze Eco with the manual will do about that mileage.

I know someone with one and on rural roads and highways he gets between 40-50 depending on conditions. I think he said lifetime mileage average is in the low 40 range.

The diesel has lots of torque and an auto though, which means its doing roughly 10mpg better than a regular Cruze.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:03 PM
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I cant wait to test drive these things.

The cruze isn't that bad of a car. Chevy might have finally gotten their stuff together... or just started selling european made cars to the US market.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:23 PM
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I like the idea of the possibility of a Mazda 6 as well.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:37 AM
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Just did a search on the Cruze. Chev's website said it has 10 airbags (?!).

Does seem like a promising car. I may try to rent one someday when I'm in need.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:48 AM
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Just did a search on the Cruze. Chev's website said it has 10 airbags (?!).

Does seem like a promising car. I may try to rent one someday when I'm in need.


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I wonder if this model will actually be marketed? Not much fuel advantage over many of the current gas engines.

Except in the past many diesels in normal hands exceeded their epa ratings. Gas cars generally never do. There has to be a worth while milage spread to justify buying diesel.

I would also want to see some owners do over 100k and the maintanance costs if any on that engine before considering one if I did. I thought it might be an existing engine used in europe but think the claimed milage is too low for that.
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I'm not a fan of VW, but were I looking in this segment I would be hard pressed to add more than 10% to the cost of a near-iconic Jetta TDI. You can buy a lot of fuel for $2,600, about two year's worth.

I know a few guys who have logged more than 350,000 miles on their Jettas without any major repairs. That kind of longevity is a good bonus.
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I read the engine is made in Germany, with the car assembled in the U.S. The 4 cyl engine uses "common rail" injection, which keeps a steady very high pressure (10,000 psi?) on the fuel rail, with electronic fuel injectors. Because they can taper the opening of the valves, they avoid the sharp combustion bang caused by our spring poppet injectors and can therefore eliminate the pre-chamber which aids efficiency, along with a finer spray from the higher pressure. The drawback is much more complexity. The high-pressure fuel pump is mechanically driven and I expect very expensive, though our IP's are not cheap. Common-rail has been used for over a decade and is a main reason that big rigs pollute less today.

I also question the value. My son bought a Cruze Eco, on my recommendation. That gets the same 42 mpg for $4000 less. Diesel costs $0.30/gal more in CA. The technology is interesting, but I'm not sure the engine will last longer and I expect repairs are much more. Still, many people love the VW TDI diesel and pay a premium for it.
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I could never buy a chevy, but Id like to test one.
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it's more expensive then a tdi jetta and gets worse milage.BUT it can get to 60 mph faster.ooohh baby!i want one.NOT. the big 3 just will not get the horsepower war out of their a$$'$ i do not care if it takes me 10 minutes to get to 60 give me 60-70 mpg and i'm fine with that.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:13 AM
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I'd consider it with a six manual....unfortunately not offered it appears.
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the big 3 just will not get the horsepower war out of their a$$'$ i do not care if it takes me 10 minutes to get to 60 give me 60-70 mpg and i'm fine with that.
I wish there were more people who think like you and I , but evidently not enough to build one car for, at least not here in the US.

With all the tweaking they have done over the last few years to squeeze horsepower out, you would think they could produce a 1.0 litre gas engine that could produce 100-120 hp and drive a small practical light car. Basically update the cars we had in the early 80s after the gas embargos and wars.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:26 AM
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It's not going to get a manual. .

I'm sure we could get better than 42mpg. Stick a scan gauge on it and drive! Soon as my dealer gets them in, I'm going to test drive then.

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