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Old 02-15-2013, 05:54 PM
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The Law can be extremely vague; but, Justice is too subjective of a term.

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Yes. And had people NOT been wiling to break the law and take the jail time, civil rights would still consist of Jim Crow.
I don't argue with that either, but those people are still criminals by definition. They broke the law.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:11 PM
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So Tom do you have a different definition for a person that has broken the law?

The google definition of the word "criminal" is: a person who has committed a crime.

You can discuss whether or not a particular crime is justified or not, but that still does not change the definition.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:15 PM
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Sounds to me like someone in your example, worked through the system.
I sincerely do not understand what you're trying to say in this sentence. I gave no example. Could you please explain it?
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:45 PM
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I don't suppose any laws have been changed in the U.S. by "criminals" who challenged the constitutionality of those laws and won.
No, that'd be silly.
Not a legal expert but I believe in order to change a law you usually (always?) need to have standing. Someone who is not affected by a law typically does not have standing as far as I know. Perhaps someone else can comment on this.

In other words, as a married man I do not think I would be able to file suite against the state/Fed regarding gay marriage.

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