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Old 02-13-2013, 06:21 PM
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Maybe you should throw in a copy of 50 shades.....
Don't forget to warp it in a yellow bow and sprinkle it with glitter....



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Old 02-13-2013, 06:32 PM
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Maybe you should throw in a copy of 50 shades.....
Ill throw in a print copy of the 50 Shades Trilogy!

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Don't forget to warp it in a yellow bow and sprinkle it with glitter....

Oh I won't... Pink glitter to match those fuzzy pink handcuffs!
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:12 PM
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It's old tech, but it works. Ford and GM have used a caliper-applied parking brake and they are frought with issues. Mercedes had the right idea, and so does Ram with its rear parking drums. GM goes cheap and just uses drum brakes on their LD trucks.
I only have experience with my own vehicles, but I've had excellent service from three American vehicles with caliper parking brakes. Anecdotal, but so far so good.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:55 PM
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Yes, there were a few cars with superior drum brakes. The buicks of the late fifties and sixties had big finned aluminum drums with iron liners. They made the very best brakes for the front of a hot rod in the days before disc brakes. Do a quality turning on them and tru arc some quality shoes to fit them, and they were very impressive even if they were still on that land yacht Buick.

Getting rid of drums on the front made such a huge improvement that the makers found that they could get by with leaving the drums on the rear, because they had a minimal effect.

In the fifties when the mid level and high level cars, e.g, Buick, Olds, Cadillac, Mercury, Lincoln, etc. started getting really heavy, the drums really started being marginal. I remember my Dad ca. 1956 invested in a quality drum lathe and a TruArc machine. He would turn the drums and the use the TruArc machine to fit some quality shoes to the drums. If one were to simply use normal wear to make the shoes fit the drums, they would have hot spots and would not break in as effectively. He had a reputation in town as being someone who could do a really good brake job.

A few years back I was at a Friday night cruise where a young fellow had a well done rat rod. I made a comment about the Buick brakes on the front and he asked me how I knew that they were Buick brakes. I didn't really know how to answer the question. He said that they did work really well. Of course the car probably didn't weigh much more than 2,000 pounds.

Another set of superior drum brakes I remember were the ones I put on my '69 Roadrunner. These were relatively light cars with components meant for heavier cars. When it came brake time, a friend of mine at a local brake and alignment shop told me that he would make a set of great brakes for it for nothing.

I took him the drums and shoes. He took scraps of quality lining material and riveted them in place on the shoes in three sections per shoe with about a 1/2" between each section. He then turned the drums and Tru Arced the shoes to fit the drums. When I got it all back together I was amazed. Up until that point I had never owned a car with better brakes. I don't think I ever did until my new 240D in '77.

Like anything else, there are good and bad within the category. I still prefer disc brakes hands down, but there are some drums that are better than others.
My first auto was a 1964 Chevrolet Chevelle.

A factory option for these cars was sintered metallic brake lining.

I did not know this when I got the car. I would have added them at the time were it possible.

Most consumers did not know or care about this option. Few were sold with them. And front discs were still about 3 model years ahead, for GM to offer....
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I remember when that first year Chevelle first came out. I thought it was the most beautiful Chevy I had ever seen.

My elderly uncle bought a new 64 SS with a 283 Power Pack, 4 speed. I drooled all over that thing. It was gorgeous.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:15 PM
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I remember when that first year Chevelle first came out. I thought it was the most beautiful Chevy I had ever seen.

My elderly uncle bought a new 64 SS with a 283 Power Pack, 4 speed. I drooled all over that thing. It was gorgeous.
Mine was like this!


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