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Diesel911, if your 80something father has a girl friend, he probably doesn't need to worry about making a fist anymore.
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:19 PM
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Some of the articles I read pretty much said you could take a lot with no issues. However, they did not indicate if it was the pure stuff or what is commonly sold for People.

If for some reason you reconstituted more then you need does it need to be refrigerated?

I am asking this because the one My Father gets is shipped cold overnight.
I saw some Colostrum on Amazon that was a liquid and had to be kept cold and shipped fast.

On Amazon there were a few people that complained of loose Bowels and or gas/bloating from normal doses.

These people were Lactose intolerant. The one Person believed the company He bought from had changed the formula as He had be using it for over 1 year.

The thought was that some companies are not selling the Pure stuff but stuff that also has regular Milk in it.
Lactose is milk sugar. Colostrum, being the initial supercharged food a newborn mammal drinks, is packed with it. Much higher than regular milk. The original carb loading for the big race; growth. Anyone lactose intolerant who'd take the stuff without having first done their homework on what colostrum is made up of is an idiot and well deserves the gastric distress as punishment for stupidity.
When it comes to supplements, i always estimate that at least half the glowing testimonies on Amazon are coming from hypochondriacs who, when the placebo effect wears off, will proceed in their search for the next silver bullet.
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Lactose is milk sugar. Colostrum, being the initial supercharged food a newborn mammal drinks, is packed with it. Much higher than regular milk. The original carb loading for the big race; growth. Anyone lactose intolerant who'd take the stuff without having first done their homework on what colostrum is made up of is an idiot and well deserves the gastric distress as punishment for stupidity.
When it comes to supplements, i always estimate that at least half the glowing testimonies on Amazon are coming from hypochondriacs who, when the placebo effect wears off, will proceed in their search for the next silver bullet.
There is mixed infomation out there:

"Colostrum is food and should be thought of as such. There have been no significant side effects from supplementation with bovine colostrum reported in the literature. Although colostrum contains lactose, the amount is small. It depends on the degree of lactose intolerance and the amount of colostrum ingested whether symptoms will appear in the lactose intolerant."
I think the above came from this site:
http://www.naturalnews.com/022851_Colostrum_studies_health.html

A Lactose Intolerant Person might read the above info and take a chance.
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Here is a Chart I came acrossed. Note the one company uses Blood Serum? Don't know if that would be good or bad for Humans. But, to me it seems like something to avoid.
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Here is a Chart I came acrossed. Note the one company uses Blood Serum? Don't know if that would be good or bad for Humans. But, to me it seems like something to avoid.
Blood Serum is just that. Clearly that chart is trying to sell you Sav-a-Caf, which is a good product for calves I'm told. I've never used it. I would be concerned about human use of the version that contains "First Defense", that's a highly concentrated dose of bovine specific antibodies that might or might not be any help to humans, and might cause other issues.
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Blood Serum is just that. Clearly that chart is trying to sell you Sav-a-Caf, which is a good product for calves I'm told. I've never used it. I would be concerned about human use of the version that contains "First Defense", that's a highly concentrated dose of bovine specific antibodies that might or might not be any help to humans, and might cause other issues.
Thanks for the Info.

There is also Colostrum for multiple Animals all the way down to Puppies and Kittens; but, it has less of the IgG in it; sort of a cut down version.
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What it is:
Colostrum is the thin yellowish fluid produced during the first few milkings of a mammal after she has given birth. It is the carrier of the immunities that are transferred from mother to infant, and one of the reasons breast feeding is so important to the health of children. Colostrum contains an abundance of nutrients, including growth factors, lipidic and glucidic factors, oligosaccharides, antimicrobials, cytokines and nucleoside. It is rich in immunoglobulins which are certain types of protein involved in promoting the immune system and fighting germs.

Bovine colostrum is identical in molecular structure to the colostrum of humans.

My 80 something Father had Carpel Tunnel issues and was able to close His Hands and make a Fist.
His Girl Friend got Him to take Bovine Colostrum supplied by someone She knows that has some Dairy Cows. After Several Months He was able to close his Hands normally.
He also claims it helped with his Arthritis.

On the Internet they sell Liquids, Powders, Capsules and even Sprays made from the stuff.

On Amazon I have been reading Customer Reviews of the Stuff some said that they had been using it for as much as 2 years and had more energy and got sick less and when they did get sick it was not as bad and of a shorter duration.

Unfortunately over 1/2 of the Positive Reviews repeated what it was used for and did not actually give if it helped them or not?

So I am hoping someone here has some personal experience or knows someone that has.
Well I have been taking the Stuff close to the time I posted this thread and have zero good or bad effects from it.
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"Bovine Colostrum, Is Anyone Using It And If So What Were The Results?" It clogs the injectors faster than mixin' WVO, WMO, atf and DF.
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Well I used it up until a Month or so ago and it did nothing good or bad for Me so I stopped using it.
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Placebo. If you'd wanted it to cure you badly enough it would have.
Colostrum is for newborns.
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The closest thing to a superfood that I trust is greens.

Eat the foods your body needs first in the day before you start eating junk processed food. Greens and a sweet potato are a good start. Just one example.

If miracles are your thing, talk to a nun.

Remember that wars were fought to secure power for the food industry and they spend tens of billions of dollars every year to advertise. They want you to eat the most profitable stuff even if it kills you. Convenience kills. Salt Sugar Fat

Doctors have said that 75% of medical costs could be eliminated if people were eating for their own health.

An old saying is that you live on one quarter of what you eat. Your doctor lives on the other three quarters.

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Old 06-30-2014, 10:25 PM
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Placebo. If you'd wanted it to cure you badly enough it would have.
Colostrum is for newborns.
Well the stuff fixed My Father's Hands and My Father believes in nothing but Himself.

It also fixed His Girl Friends Son who from the description had Rheumatoid Arthritis. His Girl Friend is the one who started My Father on it.

I told them way back that My guess was it helped inflammatory conditions or Autoimmune conditions.

I have another type of Arthritis so it is not the same although there is imflamiton involved the inflmation is a side effect of the cause of the Arthritis.

When I started taking it I was neutral on the stuff as to if it would work. I certainly wanted it to work and if it worked as a Placebo I would still be taking it.

What I think is curious is that if you took let us say an Excedrin and that did not stop your Headache you would not think it was because you did not believe in it and you would not believe it is a Placebo.

It is also well know that even the real Medications don't work as they are supposed to on may People and sometimes are even dangerous to some People
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The closest thing to a superfood that I trust is greens.

Eat the foods your body needs first in the day before you start eating junk processed food. Greens and a sweet potato are a good start. Just one example.

If miracles are your thing, talk to a nun.

Remember that wars were fought to secure power for the food industry and they spend tens of billions of dollars every year to advertise. They want you to eat the most profitable stuff even if it kills you. Convenience kills. Salt Sugar Fat

Doctors have said that 75% of medical costs could be eliminated if people were eating for their own health.

An old saying is that you live on one quarter of what you eat. Your doctor lives on the other three quarters.

Nutrition facts, calories in food, labels, nutritional information and analysis – NutritionData.com

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Sure it is mostly true.
But People who eat Healthy also get sick and die miserable deaths. I have seen it when I worked in Hospitals. And, they are often in a bit of shock and disbelief.
There could also be a Placebo effect concerning eating what you believe is healthy to eat.
Not about eating but one of My Fathers favorite Stories is about one of His Doctors that used to get up early in the morning and swim 3 Miles each day.
His Doctor died of a Heart Attack.
I say that His Doctor died Healthy.
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All you can do is play the odds. Our air, food and water are toxic. Our relationships are toxic. Our basic needs are perverted by marketing for money. You probably won't know what you really want until it is too late. Make the best choices you can. Usually it is the most simple choice.

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