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macdoe · #31 02-24-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

Are stude v8s reasonable on fuel ? The company built it's image on being that way. Yesterday as I put gas into the car. With the latest increase it was just a tad over three gallons for twenty dollars in town. Thats up here in eastern Canada. Usually I fill up over the border with the adjacent province. Maybe five miles away when going there as it is much cheaper.

We are getting seriously shafted I suspect. The other day I was talking to an irish car seller from ireland temporarily selling their product here in Canada. He told me what the hyundia cars with diesel engines they sell there every day are getting for fuel milage. . I cannot believe the milage figures he quoted without checking. If anywhere near true we are not only in the dark ages they have thrown a blanket over us as well.

The old joke of over the fender with no vasoline is not too great a stretch either.. I have been guessing that polution from them may be another red herring. Burning as little fuel as they seem to do should produce an easier situation to manage polution wise.

There is some force keeping smaller decent diesel cars out of north america. Otherwise some brand would have been here by now. The old brand manufactures that provide them may be only allowed by some grandfather clause to continue doing it. Whtever it is it is impacting both the states and us equally it seems. Mexico has different volkswagon diesels than us. I do not know if they have other brands of diesel cars as well.

I think that force is the oil companies political influence....they would never want to allow importation of a 200 mpg diesel car cause they would catch on like wildfire and then no more huge profits for the oil companies, and probably at the detriment to our environment. I think you are right and it comes down to sticking to some archaic clause in the laws that allow them to prevent the importation. Us as the people need to stand up more and force changes in these areas. The newer generations don't do it enough, got heads burried too deep in ipods and all the other fancy bling that is more important. Distusting that we can fix so many things but don't. I am afraid it will have to wait until it is too late, or maybe it already is?

t walgamuth · #32 02-24-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by macdoe

I think that force is the oil companies political influence....they would never want to allow importation of a 200 mpg diesel car cause they would catch on like wildfire and then no more huge profits for the oil companies, and probably at the detriment to our environment. I think you are right and it comes down to sticking to some archaic clause in the laws that allow them to prevent the importation. Us as the people need to stand up more and force changes in these areas. The newer generations don't do it enough, got heads burried too deep in ipods and all the other fancy bling that is more important. Distusting that we can fix so many things but don't. I am afraid it will have to wait until it is too late, or maybe it already is?

where is there a 200 mpg car being offered elsewhere?

Since66 · #33 02-24-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by macdoe

I think that force is the oil companies political influence....they would never want to allow importation of a 200 mpg diesel car cause they would catch on like wildfire and then no more huge profits for the oil companies, and probably at the detriment to our environment. I think you are right and it comes down to sticking to some archaic clause in the laws that allow them to prevent the importation. Us as the people need to stand up more and force changes in these areas. The newer generations don't do it enough, got heads buried too deep in ipods and all the other fancy bling that is more important. Distusting that we can fix so many things but don't. I am afraid it will have to wait until it is too late, or maybe it already is?

I don't think the "big oil" can risk being on record as opposing importation of a 200 mpg diesel. It would be a PR disaster. What about the proliferation of high mileage hybrids that have already appeared?

This might be merely a "halo" car for VW, but it is promising. WILL WE SEE THIS HERE? IF ONLY!

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A production version of the Volkswagen XL1 plug-in hybrid, which the German automaker says can get up to 270 mpg, will debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March. VW will put the high-mileage two-seater into production later this year but has not disclosed a price.

macdoe · #34 02-24-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

where is there a 200 mpg car being offered elsewhere?

Of course our governments would'nt pull anything over on us in favour of profit in an individual polititians pocket behind closed doors...what was I thinking.

my bad it was 270 mpg, thanks for the link Since 66....that is a neat car,

exactly what is the reasoning behind the law that prevents us from getting the choices in new diesel cars over here on this side of the world that they have on the other side? ....I mean besides the conspiracy theory.
I would think a few 270 mpg diesels would easily offset the emmisions of several gas cars.
I sometimes see us making like an ostriches putting our heads in the sand. If our polititians are'nt that dumb then their pockets are full of bribe money, it's one or the other.

The electric cars are expensive and I am not sure how well a battery would work in -50 winter in Canada, but a 270 mpg diesel might be good and not too expensive.

t walgamuth · #35 02-24-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by macdoe

Of course our governments would'nt pull anything over on us in favour of profit in an individual polititians pocket behind closed doors...what was I thinking.

my bad it was 270 mpg, thanks for the link Since 66....that is a neat car,

exactly what is the reasoning behind the law that prevents us from getting the choices in new diesel cars over here on this side of the world that they have on the other side? ....I mean besides the conspiracy theory.
I would think a few 270 mpg diesels would easily offset the emmisions of several gas cars.
I sometimes see us making like an ostriches putting our heads in the sand. If our polititians are'nt that dumb then their pockets are full of bribe money, it's one or the other.

The electric cars are expensive and I am not sure how well a battery would work in -50 winter in Canada, but a 270 mpg diesel might be good and not too expensive.

Well if you're going to count the mpg touted for plug in hybrids I think the Chevy volt gets 90 mpg or is it 190?

Skippy · #36 02-24-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Well if you're going to count the mpg touted for plug in hybrids I think the Chevy volt gets 90 mpg or is it 190?

I think that depends on how far you drive and how much you plug it in.

t walgamuth · #37 02-24-2013, 06:53 PM

I believe that in Europe VW builds a small sedan that gets 70 mpg. It is a small car though and that is most likely why it is not sold here. Really small cars traditionally have not sold well in the us. that is gradually changing though.

One only has to look at the aircraft carrier dimensions of sixties and seventies american cars compared to what we consider a full sized car now.

MS Fowler · #38 02-24-2013, 07:27 PM

OK, here is where someone brings up the Pogue carburater with its purported 200 mpg!!!!! in the 1950s.
I've read everything I can find on the Pogue, and the 200 mpg!!! claim is simply untrue. The carb was not suitable for use on automobiles; its primary application would have been stationary engines that run at constant speed. But old wives tales die hard, and people--even otherwise intelligent people--still believe in this fairy tale.
With all the competition for even 1 mpg bragging rights in today's marketplace does anyone think the car companies wouldn't do anything for such a device? The evil oil companies get the criticism without any evidence. Just like politics!

macdoe · #39 02-24-2013, 08:06 PM

Shucks, I was away and came back to find this in the diesel thread....I was reading the open discussion and thought I was responding to a thread in o/d earlier, oops. I guess that would be highjacking his thread but it seems t walgamuth was responding, so I guess it is o.k, kind of got away from the Hemi stuff.

Talk about going from one extreme to another in one thread....went from installing a hemi to the ultra fuel efficient new cars....anyways, thought you were putting a 617 in that 39 stude.

sorry to lead you astray" blame it on the a.d.d, baby",
never mind my gov't cracks they pist me off.

MS Fowler · #40 02-24-2013, 08:37 PM

I KNOW ADD.

TheDon · #41 02-24-2013, 08:43 PM

t walgamuth · #42 02-24-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by macdoe

Shucks, I was away and came back to find this in the diesel thread....I was reading the open discussion and thought I was responding to a thread in o/d earlier, oops. I guess that would be highjacking his thread but it seems t walgamuth was responding, so I guess it is o.k, kind of got away from the Hemi stuff.

Talk about going from one extreme to another in one thread....went from installing a hemi to the ultra fuel efficient new cars....anyways, thought you were putting a 617 in that 39 stude.

sorry to lead you astray" blame it on the a.d.d, baby",
never mind my gov't cracks they pist me off.

hey no problem! I would love to continue with my plan to install a 617 but there is not room to slip the front sump down between the frame rails on the CE. The 59 Studey 259 seems like a reasonable second choice, though I would give up some fuel economy for the panache of a little dodge Hemi if I could find a decent one for a decent price.