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Old 03-02-2013, 06:47 PM
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What would be a great news story is if and when they ever find an honest politician from Chicago IL . The mental health issue he is hiding behind is not to cover up a "big" score all at once, but over three quarters of a "million" over seven years, and his wife has admitted to six years of filing false tax returns. That is what i would call a career thief. I have not heard yet if I am still going to have to pay for his life time pension, being that he will go to a federal prison I will be paying to house and feed them. And the best part is that if he could run for the same congressional district while in the sh#$%$#@! he would get 80% of the vote of which there is about 15% voter turnout in that district.
I think his pension is kaput, but I could be wrong. Seems like I read that somewhere.

I do hope the Feds don't hit him with everything they have to make an example out of him. I hope they hit him with everything they have since he broke the law. The guy is a criminal and I have no problem with him being treated like one.

What gets me is that I have seen a few of these guys go from rags to riches and none of them just out and out walked off with it or even skimmed a little here and there. There are many ways to make money off of inside info and if you are in their position you are privy to a lot of it.

Some of these guys make a big deal out of putting their money into a 'blind trust', but there are always 'book deals' and 'real estate deals'. One guy I knew was offered an investment deal that had a giant return after just a few years. The Clinton's were always being accused of this, but no one could ever prove anything, so if you do it right.........

I guess Jackson Jr. thought he was just too smart to get caught. It seems like they all do.

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Old 03-02-2013, 06:58 PM
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By the way....

Clothes can be expensive and they can be high quality. I got stuck with the high price because I had to have the high quality, and high quality lasts and lasts and lasts.

One of my suits, which cost about $2,000 in 1983, still looks like new. And it still fits!

Just before I retired a fellow from the Middle East showed up at the old oil company office. He was wearing a pair of shoes that looked like they were made of snake skin. You never compliment an Arab on their clothing since that is considered by some of them as them having caused you to covet, but one guy did ask him where he could get a pair.

Turns out he could order them right there in Dallas for only $6,900!

I don't think I have spent that much money on shoes during my entire life, but maybe when Jackson Jr.'s auction takes place I might be able to pick up a pair at a used price. After all, from now on the government will be providing him with shoes!
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:25 PM
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:58 PM
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I have not heard anything about that.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:22 AM
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Real estate dealings (from wikipedia)

In 2005 Obama purchased a new home in the Kenwood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (which was $300,000 below the asking price but represented the highest offer on the property) on the same day that Rezko's wife, Rita Rezko, purchased the adjoining empty lot from the same sellers for the full asking price.[34] Obama acknowledged bringing his interest in the property to Rezko's attention,[35] but denied any coordination of offers. According to Obama, while the properties had originally been a single property, the previous owners decided to sell the land as two separate lots, but made it a condition of the sales that they be closed on the same date. Obama also stated that the properties had been on the market for months, that his offer was the better of two bids, and that Ms. Rezko's bid was matched by another offer, also of $625,000, so that she could not have purchased the property for less.[36]

After it had been reported in 2006 that Rezko was under federal investigation for influence-peddling, Obama purchased a 10-foot-wide strip of Ms. Rezko's property for $104,500, $60,000 above the assessed value.[7][34] According to Chicago Sun-Times columnist, Mark Brown, "Rezko definitely did Obama a favor by selling him the 10-foot strip of land, making his own parcel less attractive for development."[37] Obama acknowledges that the exchange may have created the appearance of impropriety and stated "I consider this a mistake on my part and I regret it."[36]

On December 28, 2006, Mrs. Rezko sold the property to a company owned by her husband's former business attorney. That sale of $575,000, combined with the earlier $104,500 sale to the Obamas, amounted to a net profit of $54,500 over her original purchase, less $14,000 for a fence along the property line and other expenses.[38][39] In October 2007, the new owners put the still vacant land up for sale again, this time for $1.5 million.[40]

I'm having a hard time seeing something neferious here, please assist me.

Rezco bought the adjoining lot, held it for a period of time and made money on the sale....not too shady there.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:03 AM
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Obama is clean.
Clean maybe as in legal, but a five hundred million dollar gift of tax dollars to a political contributor of his is not my idea of clean. That is the crony capitalism he learned from the chi town pros that took him under there wing and trained him how to steal legally. As far as my original post I mentioned about a real news article would be about an honest politician from IL not a somewhat clean one. There are plenty of recorded lies without looking very hard out there and he said himself a few times that those are not lies just broken campaign promises. If a broken campaign promise is not dishonest than what is? also I would be a little cleaner if i started my working life at the ripe age of late thirties. And I would compare my statement that i receive from social security against his any time and I am within one year of age difference.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:07 PM
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Clean maybe as in legal, but a five hundred million dollar gift of tax dollars to a political contributor of his is not my idea of clean. That is the crony capitalism he learned from the chi town pros that took him under there wing and trained him how to steal legally. As far as my original post I mentioned about a real news article would be about an honest politician from IL not a somewhat clean one. There are plenty of recorded lies without looking very hard out there and he said himself a few times that those are not lies just broken campaign promises. If a broken campaign promise is not dishonest than what is? also I would be a little cleaner if i started my working life at the ripe age of late thirties. And I would compare my statement that i receive from social security against his any time and I am within one year of age difference.
Please show me where he said campaign goals unmet are lies.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:13 PM
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This is really a pretty standard deal for the Pols I have run into.

Gov. of Texas Rick Perry bought a lot in a lakeside development near Austin for about $150,000. He sold it a few years later for a little over a million.

Improper? Who knows? When he bought the lot the place was just in the first stages of development, but land on Lake Travis was selling for far more than he paid for it when he bought it. But maybe the seller needed money fast?

And when he sold it the development had become one of the most sought after addresses on the lake. Perry had nothing to do with this since he was just a landowner, like a lot of others, and not a developer.

So he got lucky (if you ask him) and he took a dive (if you ask his opponents) and it looks like it was a little of both. Someone tipped him to the opportunity and he took a risk that paid off.

If you were looking for something crooked to hang on him this would seem like a good place to start until you learn all the facts, and I think the same thing could be found with most of these land deals that Politicos make big money off of.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:25 PM
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Obama has not made any money on that deal.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:46 AM
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Please show me where he said campaign goals unmet are lies.
If you read my post I stated that there are plenty of records when he was not honest with his statements during his campaign, and he claimed that they are not lies just campaign promises. You seem to be attempting to prove that I am anti B.O. but if you can comprehend from my previous post is that what a news story that would be if they found or discovered an honest politician from IL did I need to say Dem. or Rep politician. Even the very far left leaning PBS news broadcast from Chicago keep reminding viewers that the state they live in is the WORST run state (not the worst state) in the country. And to top that off now I hear that the new mayor of Chicago who has fixed nothing is considering running for president. I wonder if the electorate thinks that one way to get rid of their corrupt politicians is send them to Washington.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:49 AM
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Obama has not made any money on that deal.
Yeah R.M. Daley and J. Jackson J.R. are wondering how B.O. dropped the ball on that one, can't even steal right.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:15 AM
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If you read my post I stated that there are plenty of records when he was not honest with his statements during his campaign, and he claimed that they are not lies just campaign promises. You seem to be attempting to prove that I am anti B.O. but if you can comprehend from my previous post is that what a news story that would be if they found or discovered an honest politician from IL did I need to say Dem. or Rep politician. Even the very far left leaning PBS news broadcast from Chicago keep reminding viewers that the state they live in is the WORST run state (not the worst state) in the country. And to top that off now I hear that the new mayor of Chicago who has fixed nothing is considering running for president. I wonder if the electorate thinks that one way to get rid of their corrupt politicians is send them to Washington.
I am not trying to prove you are anti Obama. I am only saying he is clean. You have offered no proof to the contrary. Being from Chicago is not proof.

I tend to agree that that state and that city tend toward corruption, perhaps the worst but perhaps not the worst in the country.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:16 AM
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Yeah R.M. Daley and J. Jackson J.R. are wondering how B.O. dropped the ball on that one, can't even steal right.
Apparently we agree then that he did not steal?
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:48 AM
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Apparently we agree then that he did not steal?
Yeah I'll give you that, but i still wish we had a good honest leader and not a great speech reader.
P.S. What do you think about our state tax refund bonus $112.00 per taxpayer who filed a timely return last year due to a budget surplus.. Do you think that the people from the great state of Illinois with all of those great leaders are going to get more or less $$?
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:01 PM
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I'm not going to crap all over the Rezko/BO deal...sounds legit, even though one participant is a shyster and the other is pounding rocks...

Sometimes, who you know doesn't mean a hill of beans...

For example...

Just before a new bridge was to be built along side the current bridge in our beautiful little town on the Mississippi (La Crosse), a "reputable business man" of high standing in the community decided that he was going to purchase some property, just north of and adjacent to the current bridge. Seems he had some "inside information" about some plans that WISDOT had cooking...

So, as the story goes, Mr. RBM buys the supposedly prime property on the east bank and then, a little while later, lo and behold, WISDOT decides that it's going to "...alleviate the traffic congestion coming into/out of La Crosse via the pike..." and build a new, two-lane, bridge adjacent to the existing one.

Well, Mr. RBM decided he had the best property and intentions of the community at heart and thought that since WISDOT was going to need the property for the bridge, he was the guy to sell it to them...but at a pretty penny for sure.

Then WISDOT threw Mr. RBM a screw-ball...after seeing what Mr. RBM was requiring them to spend to buy the eastern bank of the new bridge-to-be, they decided to build the bridge, instead, on the southern side of the old bridge.

BoyHowdy! Was there ever a dust-storm of "You can't do that to me!"

In the end thought, Mr. RBM got a dose of "We don't care who you are..."

WISDOT bought the southern-side-of-the-current-bridge-land on the east and west banks for what was in their original (WISDOT's) budget.

HOWEVER, no "good-come-uppance" goes unpunished...

Mr. RBM decided, instead, that he was going to build a "Courtyard by Marriott" right next to the old bridge...then after it was built, he "demanded" the state replace the grated roadbed with a new, "quieter" poured-concrete roadbed, because the existing grates (which had been put down, originally, to replace the original paved roadway due to the annual "smashed May-fly hatches" that slicked-up the roadway) caused a loud "humming sound" to eminate from said-roadbed and "disturb the paying guests" at his new hotel...

After the WISDOT engineers decided that the change wouldn't endanger the traveling public, it was done...but not without a few lawyers getting their kids' kids through a few years of Dartmouth.

In the meantime, Mr. RBM died the death that happens to those that seem to be the best buddy to all of those that yearn to lick the boots of the one that walks on them. But, he didn't live to see the "roadbed swap" to its conclusion...

Which goes to show...

You can have all the money, everyone can kiss your kiester, but in the end, there are those that couldn't care less about you, what you have or who you know.

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