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Old 03-04-2013, 02:59 PM
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It might surprise you to learn that Ontario is the major cernter for auto manufacturing in NA. Many of the plants such as Cami and Honda are not unionized but pay similar wages. They entered the market place with a very young and untrained work force and built everything up from there. They are only now starting pay any pensions unlike all of the other older operations which gave them a big advantage for all of those years.

Why go to Ontario? Corporate taxes are about 15% here and a fair amount of health care is covered by the national plan so it seems to be working for them.

As far as the decline of things in America, you did it to yourselves. Borrowing is only one part. Those with money to invest did it in such a way that those investments went abroad. Rather than paying the local wages they went to lower wage countries with lower environmental standards, lower safety standards, lower life standards. Now, these same people are *****ing about having to prop up the poor here in this country - the ones they made poor in the first place.

This site is rife with examples of how some only want to care for them an theirs and screw everyone else. They deserve the miserable lives they live because they're LOOSERS! Any attempt to help someone up is seen as socialist and that must be avoided at all costs. Much easier to arm yourself to the teeth and blow away those problems isn't it?

It hardly surprises me that a MB web site would be filled with RW thinkers. The cars do lend well to all things conservate aside from the prices you pay. OK, let's say afluent RW thinkers.
What does surprise me though is some of the backwards nontions that flow out of that thinking. Like it or not, a lot of people are unable to take care of themselves today for a variety of reasons. You can ignore that fact or accept it but it doesn't change the situation by blaming them for your tax bill. Quit worrying about where your taxes are going. They're taxes for F'n sake - they go where ever they go.... and not always into someones pocket.

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Old 03-04-2013, 03:15 PM
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America may have signed its prosperity death warrant by systematically eliminating favorable conditions for manufacturing in this country. It certainly is slowly but surely killing off the middle class. A manufacturing society creates commerce and wealth in the middle...
It did more than that to cause its own death.

So many senior municipal officials, from the city and the county, were corrupt.
Examples:
Coleman Young and his police chief were both investigated for smuggling gold coins.
Coleman died, the chief got 8 years in the Federal Pen.

City council members evaded income and property taxes and claimed they were exempt.
Department heads were fired and jailed for graft and drug trafficking or money laundering.
The recent mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, still owes the government 830,000 in stolen funds.
The 8 million in settlement money for sex affairs and cover-ups are well-publiciezed and still in courts.
Bobby Ferguison, the mayor's crony, demanded bribes to do business in detroit and split them with the mayor.
The City Council chief Monica Conyers, wife of the Congressman, did 3.5 years in a Federal pen.
The school system defrauded 21 million dollars from the bank accounts. Ongoing investigations.
Recently a department head used extra money sent to her dept as emergency funds to redo her kitchen at a cost of 15,000.

You're onluy sorry oif you're caught.

50% of the p[roperty owners have not paid their property tax for 2011 and 2012. NO ENFORCEMENT.

Let the whole city die.

I know people that use the city as a place to throw theuir excess organic waste. they say: " No one will notice anyway."

And they are right. Until the city dwellers agree to do their part, nothing will change.

We need some stronger medicine to fix these things.

Put all convicts into beautification projects and see what a difference that would make.

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