Your joking right? Do you know what baloney and hot dogs are made of? So gross. Ever seen Discovery channels "How it's Made" on the subject of hot dogs. I care not feed the cells of my body lips and azzholes and scraps that should really go to the dog.

Wonder bread is an interesting experiment. We used to make bread in the bread machine but it is very heavy and dense. At the time you could leave a bread machine loaf out for only 2-3 days and it would become mouldy. Try it with wonder bread...that stuff won't go mouldy for weeks. Made me wonder what kind of preservatives they put in the stuff so it can last so much longer than homemade bread.

Talk to people from third world countries...they don't have as many strange cancers that we do.

Watch a documentary called "Farmaggedon" very informative...
You are what you eat....

Crosby eats dempsters....or they pay him to say he does.....their 12 grain/multigrain bread is pretty good.

Why would you water down Budweiser...its bad enough out of the bottle without doing that?

We Americans have interesting food bias.

I think before they add the pink food coloring to your hot dogs the meat is green. What do you suppose makes it green....bacteria perhaps. Think about that when your biting into your next tube steak. They scrape the junk that goes into hot dogs off the floor with front end loaders to dump it into the machine that turns it into hot dogs.

I was'nt saying anything about Americans diet cause we eat alot of hot dogs/baloney up here too. I will eat them myself from time to time if I have no choice. Sometimes when you need protein u need it and can't always afford to eat like a king. Food is expensive and becoming more so it seems every week. I guess we should be thankful for the food we have whatever it is.

To sound like a total hippocrit...when I did drink years ago, one of my favorite beers was Bud. I would'nt water any beer down though.....American or Canadian. I think the Bud up here is made in Canada?

Seriously, take a break from the usual monotonous movie plots one night and check out the documentary "Farmaggedon" and another documentary that I saw bits and pieces of that looked good was "Food Matters".....
both on Netflix right now.

The part about milk on the Farmaggedon one was especially interesting to me.

They bring about alot of good points about the food we are eating over here in North America with regards to disease. Alot of stuff I did'nt know, and is not overly publisized in the mainstream life of a city dweller. Maybe people with farming backgrounds know more about this stuff. Eyeopener.

^^ also, "Food, Inc" is worth watching.

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I have a friend from the far east that tells me his country hardly saw cancer like we do here. He also said there is a MAJOR difference in the taste of some of the food from his country compared to the same foods over here.

Surely you can get good bread, just don't buy that white crap you find at Wal Mart... like try a bakery for example

Worst case just wait for someone to inevitably gift you a bread-automat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIxkMlaDTHI&list=UU6P52TA_Ks_-1hdhGegGV6w&index=37

Is that the one were the guy eats McDonalds food for a year and almost dies?

I was just reading the bread bag from Dempsters and the natural ingredients are listed first and then a whole bunch of stuff that I have'nt got a clue what it is?? monoglycerids,sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate etc. etc.....I guess that's the stuff that allows it to sit on the shelves for prolonged periods compared with bread from a bread machine. That bread machine bread smells great.

I figured if Crosby ate it, it would be good....someone should show him the mould test...

If they preserve the bread, wouldn't it seem logical that they would preserve us as well? At this rate, in a few decades, embalming will become superfluous.

The only place I've found good bread is a German bakery in Venice Beach, owned by a German top chef and I believe they import the ingredients them self. Of-course this comes at a cost: a loaf, the size of a beer-can cost $8,-. Well worth the money to me. Good bread shouldn't last longer than two days, if it does, it's full of preservatives.

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Watched it this afternoon, sure makes your blood boil.

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Comparing Euro-food with American .. my youngest kid has been studying in Paris since Aug of last year. Got food poisoning twice (she self-diagnosed and tuffed it out). once in Brussels and once in Paris from eating local. Mostly she cooks in her apt.

Anybody ever gotten food poisoning in a McDonalds?

You may get a long term, potentially deleterious dose of preservatives at McD's. But you wont get somebody's E. coli or Shigella.

I'm not sure, but it could be oxidation, as opposed to bacterial growth, but i'm not a food scientist.

It is kind of anti-knowledge though this kind of thinking. I mean we can just say "bread", or we can say "ingredients, wheat" but if you look at what makes up wheat, there are thousands of important chemicals there with long names. Like a monoglyceride is just an emulsifier so that your food product has a proper texture instead of falling apart (like so your margarine is solid instead of just oil).

Wikipedia says monoglycerides are added to bread to make smooth and soft crumbs

That's the thing. We hear today people complaining about "corporations" and the food industry and modern farming in general. There's an obesity epidemic! It's a first for human history... before... frequently food supply broke down and huge swathes of the population of the city or country would die because the harvest was bad, or because people were using human waste for fertilizer and E-coli-ing to death or all kinds of similar problems. Today, being fat has become the problem... it's absolutely wonderful. We have traded 50% chance of early death for 0.05% chance of diabetes, and the food tastes good to boot. Technology rocks!