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Old 03-24-2013, 06:14 PM
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The lovely Mrs. and I are in Madison In today since she is on spring break. We are staying in the Clifty Inn at the state park high above the Ohio river. We overlook the big coal fired electric plant. Its rainy today and we have exhausted all the antique stores and flea markets so I am in the hotel room now with she taking a nap.

I am enjoying watching the tugs pushing fifteen coal barges lashed together into position to be unloaded. they come and go pretty continuously here. I cannot see well enough to be able to see all the details. It appears the coal is coming from the south. It appears the tugs/barges are too long to actually turn around in the river so I believe they bring it up and dock it, then when they are all unloaded they come from the upstream and lash them on and go back south. The coal also goes past for other generators upstream, presumably. I guess it is Indiana coal coming from the wabash river over by Vincennes and the coal country.

Madison is a very old town being incorporated in 1809 so there are lots of historic buildings to check out. Every time we come here i want to buy a little house overlooking the Ohio. Judging by the appearance of them they do not appear to carry the sort of premium price of other water front property.

The bridge is being replaced over the Ohio to Milton KY and has been under construction for at least a year. The plan is to build up the existing concrete pileings, build the new bridge upstream of the existing on temporary pilings and then remove the existing bridge and slide the new one downstram onto the permanent pilings. I drove across today and surmised that was the plan. I just now checked online and verified it all. The plan is to keep traffic open more or less continuously with only a few days down at a time.

Anything over three tons must go around at present. The next bridge is at least 20 miles in either direction.

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Old 03-24-2013, 06:26 PM
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I used to work in Madison occasionally, pretty town. One of the few towns that looked ahead enough to develop their Main St with four lanes. I remember the Inn as well. Safe travels, I see it might snow in those parts tonight.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:32 PM
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I thought you were talking about the real Madison, in Wisconsin.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:54 PM
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Snow is expected for our trip home tomorrow.
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More electricity is still generated by coal fired plants in the world than by any other medium I understand.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:27 PM
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I was looking at the chimneys earlier and estimated they are at least 60 stories which depending on the height of each story would be at minimum 720 feet, but I did not think they were really that tall. I just googled it and they are in fact 980' tall, among the tallest chimneys in the world. They are reinforced concrete and must have tested the men who built them. I wonder if they placed the concrete with helocopeters?

The tops are lost in the clouds at the moment.
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Madison is a very old town being incorporated in 1809...
Funny to hear you say that... here in MA, if you were not founded before 1800, you are a relatively new town . Our town was founded in 1653.
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Funny to hear you say that... here in MA, if you were not founded before 1800, you are a relatively new town . Our town was founded in 1653.
So true, but out west (what this was in 1809) there was still danger from native americans! And getting around on land was pretty much done on game trails or horseback.
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Is there a museum in town where the "Miss Madison" is kept?
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So true, but out west (what this was in 1809) there was still danger from native americans! And getting around on land was pretty much done on game trails or horseback.
I guess that was five years after the Lewis & Clark expedition -- funny to think of how such a large part of this country was totally undisturbed. Wish I could have seen it then...

Come to think of it, our church (Park Street Church in Boston) was founded in 1809!
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:31 AM
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Not that i know of.

There is a very interesting little hydroplane powered by a crosley engine here at the Park inn in the lobby. I checked it out yesterday. The crosley engine made about 80 hp it says. The crosly engine appears to have an ohc driven by a vertical bevel shaft off the rear of the crand and the head and cylinders appear to be integral bolting to the crankcase. It has a one barrell carb with an opening the size of a quarter or so.
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Not that i know of.

There is a very interesting little hydroplane powered by a crosley engine here at the Park inn in the lobby. I checked it out yesterday. The crosley engine made about 80 hp it says. The crosly engine appears to have an ohc driven by a vertical bevel shaft off the rear of the crand and the head and cylinders appear to be integral bolting to the crankcase. It has a one barrell carb with an opening the size of a quarter or so.

Sounds interesting, but Tom, are you aware of the story about the "Miss Madison" slaying the dragon back in the early seventies in the Hydroplane races in Madison? They even made a movie about it. A movie that you, as a racer, I'm SURE would enjoy if you haven't already seen it. I am pretty sure that the boat is in a museum in Madison.

http://www.thunderboats.org/history/history0399.html

http://www.thunderboats.org/restorations.shtml

Well before I run you on a wild goose chase, I learned from the second link that apparantly the "Miss Madison" is in a museum in Washington State.

A little more googling and I'm fuming!

http://www.roundaboutmadison.com/InsidePages/ArchivedArticles/Regatta/Regatta22.html

For the movie, the Hollyweirdo's made a museum out of the old train station and made it appear that the "Miss Madison" is housed there today. What a bunch of jerks. What did they possible add to the movie by making up lies?
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:51 AM
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Yeah, we watched the movie while here this time.

There was another thing in the movie I wondered about....stealing the engine from the display P-51 Mustang in Colombus IN. I'd like to see the real facts vs the hollywood version.

They also showed four guys in a pickup truck stealing the v16 Allison motor from the mustang with the nose sitting about 12' above the ground and having the boat ready to run the next morning. They had a stepladder but I would think that allison motor must weigh over a ton so a hoist would definately be needed.
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Tom,
as far as coal goes, my recollection is that 60% (more?) of the barge traffic on the Ohio river is coal.
Duke Energy, AEP and at least a few other Utilities own coal plants on the Ohio River in OH, WV, PA. They dont have "Friends of Coal" chapters out where you live ?
Friends of Coal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IIRC the coal from west of Indiana cheaper to buy, causing many plants to burn that coal as a cost saving move. (IIRC coal prices range from $30 to $200 per ton depending on the market)
Having seen the technology required to ship coal and the amount we use (any given plant uses 1000's of tons per day...) I'd rather see that coal on a barge (1500t each) than on a railroad car or truck.

If you were going closer to Cincinnati, I'd recommend stopping by Big Bone Lick SP (KY), but it looks like more of a drive than you'd want to do.

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No Tom, they stole part of a carburetor or maybe some other small part. That was probably Holly weird BS too.

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