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Old 05-12-2013, 10:10 PM
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Sometimes there really is a conspiracy

At various points over the past two years, Internal Revenue Service officials singled out for scrutiny not only groups with “tea party” or “patriot” in their name but also nonprofit groups that criticized the government and sought to educate Americans about the U.S. Constitution, according to documents in an audit conducted by the agency’s inspector general.

IRS targeted groups critical of government, documents from agency probe show - The Washington Post
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:49 PM
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:15 AM
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Bueller?

Groups that have politics as their primary focus aren't supposed to have 501c3 status. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that groups with Tea Party and/or Patriot in their self given title are quite possibly political groups.

Nothing I've read on this story suggests that they were the only groups singled out. I suspect that having "progressive" or "democrat" in their name would bring some scrutiny as well.

BTW, Medmech! Where you been guy?
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:55 AM
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Bueller?

Groups that have politics as their primary focus aren't supposed to have 501c3 status. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that groups with Tea Party and/or Patriot in their self given title are quite possibly political groups.

Nothing I've read on this story suggests that they were the only groups singled out. I suspect that having "progressive" or "democrat" in their name would bring some scrutiny as well.

BTW, Medmech! Where you been guy?
From the CSMonitor
"The IRS apologized Friday for what it acknowledged was "inappropriate" targeting of conservative political groups during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status. The agency blamed low-level employees, saying no high-level officials were aware."

IRS apologizes. But has it told all about targeting tea party? - CSMonitor.com

Even after the IRS admitted wrong doing and issued an apology, you're still making excuses for them. Amazing. Sycophant does not even begin to describe you.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:22 AM
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Jeez dude. I'm saying I don't know much about what happened. Given the way different groups on both sides tend to whine about stuff like this, I'm not sure what to believe.

One group that has whined loudly about this is Z Street, which pretty much lives to promote Israel. They seem to believe they are entitle to 501c3. Do you think they are primarily a political group? How about AIPAC? Political group? I can't find info on whether or not their 501c3 status was taken from them but apparently they had it as recently as 2010, though various arguments were made around then to strip them of it.

Point being, a lot of groups don't want to pay taxes. I'm guessing Tea Party groups might be among those who would aggressively resist paying lawful taxes.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:21 AM
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From what I read it looked to me as if these sort of groups were sort of jamming the irs with tax exempt requests. I believe I read the requests have risen in multiples the last few years of the usual amount of such requests. I have not heard the reason, just the amount of increases. The jamming idea is mine.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:39 AM
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Unbelievable responses!

I guess in a small way, it proves my theory that there are zealots that would refuse to believe guilt of anyone in their favorite political group, even after caught with a smoking gun and a confession.

To be fair though, I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't see the democrats on the Sunday morning talk shows. I was actually impressed with a few of their responses. Of course, when you're folks are caught red handed, what can you do?
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:53 AM
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Bueller?

Groups that have politics as their primary focus aren't supposed to have 501c3 status. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that groups with Tea Party and/or Patriot in their self given title are quite possibly political groups.

Nothing I've read on this story suggests that they were the only groups singled out. I suspect that having "progressive" or "democrat" in their name would bring some scrutiny as well.

BTW, Medmech! Where you been guy?
These guys were 501c(4)
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:55 AM
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FWIW, I don't believe in tax exempt status. Everybody plays, everybody pays.
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I don't believe in tax free status either, but I DO believe that there should not be ANY group singled out due to their beliefs or their mission. Is it safe to assume that there were similar liberal groups that were NOT under such audit activity? Sure sounds like it.
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I don't believe in tax free status either, but I DO believe that there should not be ANY group singled out due to their beliefs or their mission. Is it safe to assume that there were similar liberal groups that were NOT under such audit activity? Sure sounds like it.
I suspect that you are only talking about the tip of the iceberg here. Why would they stop just with tax exempt groups. I bet that there are similar targetings on individuals as well.
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Red herring for the Benghazi mess.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:50 AM
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As I has said in the other thread, "Organize for America" and "Democracy for America" Obama and Dean's groups also have tax exempt status. I was wondering if they were ever hassled by the IRS, but I could not find anything...
What I cannot tolerate is the Government doing things like this to make any group spend its time and resources fighting the IRS instead of getting their message out.

This smacks of what the NAZI party did to its opposition in the 1930s and what the Communists did in the USSR.
Using the power of the government to suppress opposition sounds too much like Peronist Argentina and Chavista Venezuela
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I don't believe in tax free status either, but I DO believe that there should not be ANY group singled out due to their beliefs or their mission. Is it safe to assume that there were similar liberal groups that were NOT under such audit activity? Sure sounds like it.
Would be worth a long term study, wouldn't it? Does the IRS shift emphasis with the political winds?

For the tax system to work it must be perceived of as being fair and honest. Stuff like this undermines perception. When it becomes perceived of as corrupt and unfair people will feel justified in cheating. This is how you get a tax system like the Greeks love so much.
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Didn't Nixon sic the IRS on his enemies? AND, wasn't that one of the reasons he was impeached? I hope this gets traction: I'd even risk two or three years of that dimwit Biden to get rid of Barry....

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