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SCOTUS: Another farmer loses to Monsanto
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday in favor of biotech giant Monsanto, ordering Indiana farmer Vernon Hugh Bowman, 75, to pay Monsanto more than $84,000 for patent infringement for using second generation Monsanto seeds purchased second hand—a ruling which will have broad implications for the ownership of 'life' and farmers' rights in the future.
In the case, Bowman had purchased soybean seeds from a grain elevator—where seeds are cheaper than freshly engineered Monsanto GE (genetically engineered) seeds and typically used for animal feed rather than for crops. The sources of the seeds Bowman purchased were mixed and were not labeled. However, some were "Roundup Ready" patented Monsanto seeds. The Supreme Court Justices, who gave Monsanto a warm reception from the start, ruled that Bowman had broken the law because he planted seeds which naturally yielded from the original patented seed products—Monsanto's policies prohibit farmers from saving or reusing seeds from Monsanto born crops. Farmers who use Monsanto's seeds are forced to buy the high priced new seeds every year. Ahead of the expected ruling, Debbie Barker, Program Director for Save Our Seeds (SOS), and George Kimbrell, staff attorney for Center for Food Safety (CFS), asked in an op-ed earlier this year, "Should anyone, or any corporation, control a product of life?": Corporate Win: Supreme Court Says Monsanto Has 'Control Over Product of Life' | Common Dreams
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The only statement above that I take issue with is, "Farmers who use Monsanto's seeds are forced to buy the high priced new seeds every year."
Though factually correct, it implies that farmers have no alternative to Monsanto. Clearly, a farmer can buy seeds from whomever is willing to sell, given whatever restrictions the retailer may require. Also, did the farmer know that the seeds contained Monsanto's patent? If he did, then he knowingly broke the law. Is the law bad? I think so. But that is a separate issue to be brought before the appropriate deliberative body -- Congress. |
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How many unanimous decisions from the justices this term?
Farmer's aren't "forced" to buy Monsanto seeds, are they? Of course not, they can easily obtain "legacy" seeds from sources around the country. |
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If Monsanto was serious about protecting against people using second generation seed they would simply make their original seed hybrid ~ only fertile for one generation. It has been done previously. Monsanto are more interested in making $$$$$$$$$ from litigation !
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I wonder what the evidence consisted of and how he ended up in a lawsuit to begin with. How did anyone know what he planted?
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They would have got legal costs as well
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They just do tests on his produce when he sells it. If it has the gene he is in trouble. Strange thing is, if you plant a crop of non Monsanto seed next to a crop of Monsanto stuff you will probably be in trouble from the cross pollination.
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Indeed, perhaps the farmer might consider suing Monsanto for contaminating his pristine natural homeopathic, macrobiotic, organic soya with the dreaded GM genes, ruining his chances for selling to consumers who dread GM products and prefer nature's pure bounty. |
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or probably not, not.
Agricultural Giant Battles Small Farmers - CBS News Organic Farmers Lose Right to Protect Crops | Rodale News
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the second link took me to a list of articles. Is there one in particular or is this a sort of shotgun approach? FWIW, I generally agree with or at least sympathize with, and hope to follow "Organic Gardening" (Rodale Press). |
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People who aren't farmers really shouldn't comment about things they know little of. If this if indicative of other topics around here then most of what I read here is pure opinion and speculation. Of course, I kind of knew that anyway.
Monsanto makes a lot of money from selling their products. Like anything with a copyright or patent, they protect it. I buy RR seed each year not only because I have to but also because it's better seed. Part of the program involves better yield potential or I wouldn't use it. I could use non RR ready seed and use herbicides that aren't as effective as Roundup. The diference in cost between RR seed and the chemicals needed to kill weeds in non RR beans is very close to the same. ( the patent on Roundup has expired and it's really cheap now ) If these sprays don't work, then conventional cost more. Also, some herbicides don't fit into a no-till program and require the fields to be prepared so the spray can be worked into the soil. Since there are many different types of sprays, it's not that easy to predict which ones will work properly due to dry or wet weather. Roundup generally works over a wider window of application on a wider selection of weeds. There is also no carry over when considering sensive crops such as sugar beets or tomatos. Do I like the program? No, but I'm used to it and there's enough benifit that it's not a big deal any more. Anyone growing corn understands hybred seed. Monsanto was going to install a terminator gene into their seed but I'm pretty sure that was blocked early on. As for the guy that got caught....... I'm sure he sprayed Roundup on his crop, which is how it usually happens. It's not hard to tell conventional fields from RR - just look for weeds. |
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Infringement of patents and copyrights is not a criminal offense. A patent is only a method to allow the holder to sue. The holder must prove damages which could include lost sales of the patented product. If the patent holder does not sue, no law has been broken.
I seem to recall when this first came up that people were worried about selling ANYTHING second hand would give the original manufacturer some windfall benefits. Quote:
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