Homebuilders Struggling to Find Workers

[Txjake]

Good: greedy bastards...

""A lot of our workers are immigrants and they went back to their home countries," he said. "Our subcontractors can't get people; they can't start on time; they can't get things done on time.""

Homebuilders Struggling to Find Workers - Yahoo! Finance

[P.C.]

No biggie, just hire those Americans whose jobs were being stolen by those damned illegal aliens...

[Txjake]

Originally Posted by P.C.

No biggie, just hire those Americans whose jobs were being stolen by those damned illegal aliens...

exactly. Story should read "Builders too cheap to hire American labor"

[spdrun]

Just glad that Bennie's housing recovery hasn't come to NJ yet. People to meet, foreclosures to buy.

[Air&Road]

They don't have any trouble around here. Every town has a place where the illegal immigrants hang out in the morning waiting for the trucks to drive by picking up their day labor.

[Mike D]

Yup. The pendulum swings. A lot of the skilled trades workers got fed up with the "You're lucky to have a job" attitude displayed by management over the last 20 years and moved on to other occupations. The older, experienced workers, who in former times were available/willing to teach the younger set coming into the trades, got fed up with hearing about the "new" way companies do business now are either no longer there or have no desire to help the company succeed.

"As you sow, so shall you reap"

[Mike D]

Originally Posted by Air&Road

They don't have any trouble around here. Every town has a place where the illegal immigrants hang out in the morning waiting for the trucks to drive by picking up their day labor.

There's a huge difference between someone who knows which end of a hammer hits the nail and a pro who can look at the plans and see what needs to be done.

You don't find a plumber who knows the codes standing in from of the Home Despot.

[spdrun]

Originally Posted by Mike D

There's a huge difference between someone who knows which end of a hammer hits the nail and a pro who can look at the plans and see what needs to be done.

You don't find a plumber who knows the codes standing in from of the Home Despot.

Tract housing? Built to code or if to code, decent standards? HAHAHAHA! Back-stab outlets wired through, so if one borks, the rest of the circuit goes down, plumbing embedded in the slab all the way where it's super easy to fix. LMMFAO!

I suspect that the only licensed plumber or electrician on those jobs is sitting in an office, rubber stamping stuff. Here's hoping for more cheap fork-losers in this area to put the tract builders out of business for a while.

[P.C.]

Originally Posted by Air&Road

They don't have any trouble around here. Every town has a place where the illegal immigrants hang out in the morning waiting for the trucks to drive by picking up their day labor.

You know their residency status just by looking at them? Joe Arpaio would hire you as a deputy in a second!

[elchivito]

Produce prices are expected to rise in the coming year due to the lack of hands available for picking. I heard a news report from California, several farmers bemoaning the fact that so many good hands had gone back to Mexico and Central America. These fellows paid decent wages, 10-15 dollars an hour. They said they try to hire citizens but few apply and when hired, generally don't last. The work is too hard.

[P.C.]

Originally Posted by elchivito

Produce prices are expected to rise in the coming year due to the lack of hands available for picking. I heard a news report from California, several farmers bemoaning the fact that so many good hands had gone back to Mexico and Central America. These fellows paid decent wages, 10-15 dollars an hour. They said they try to hire citizens but few apply and when hired, generally don't last. The work is too hard.

At $60/hr., including bennie costs, I'm sure that we can find some native-born U.S. citizens to take and hold on to these jobs. So just calculate the number of unskilled and semi-skilled man-hours it takes to build an "average" house (whatever "average" is) and add $45/man-hour to the cost of the house.

[kmaysob]

Originally Posted by P.C.

You know their residency status just by looking at them? Joe Arpaio would hire you as a deputy in a second!

Generally legal citizens don't stand outside circle k saying labora labora as soon as you pull up in a work truck. Pullin a trailer? Whoa, you better be ready.

[Air&Road]

Originally Posted by kmaysob

Generally legal citizens don't stand outside circle k saying labora labora as soon as you pull up in a work truck. Pullin a trailer? Whoa, you better be ready.

How true.

Anyone who thinks that the illegal immigrants have no more skill than running a weed eater are completely out of touch. There are LOTS of them that are not only bust ass all day long workers, but also SKILLED at many trades.

They are hungry and many of them are seriously smart. They are quick studies, and hungry to learn.

[P.C.]

Originally Posted by Air&Road

How true.

Anyone who thinks that the illegal immigrants have no more skill than running a weed eater are completely out of touch. There are LOTS of them that are not only bust ass all day long workers, but also SKILLED at many trades.

They are hungry and many of them are seriously smart. They are quick studies, and hungry to learn.

Generalizations abound!

[kmaysob]

Originally Posted by Air&Road

How true.

Anyone who thinks that the illegal immigrants have no more skill than running a weed eater are completely out of touch. There are LOTS of them that are not only bust ass all day long workers, but also SKILLED at many trades.

They are hungry and many of them are seriously smart. They are quick studies, and hungry to learn.

thats fine and great larry. they still are illegal. if they want to go through all the legal steps i have no issue with them.