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Old 06-11-2013, 02:11 PM
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Why can't we let people who want to commit suicide do so? Cannot it be their choice?

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Of course it's a choice, but many people who attempt it and fail are grateful as hell to be alive a year or two later. No reason to make it easy or accessible. Plus leaving a child of a single mother as an orphan would be horrible.

Child of a Marine who died in Iraq. Mother is depressed about her husband's death, but is living with it and raising her son. Then something happens to remind her of her late husband, and she has a breakdown takes the way out. What happens to her son? If the gun weren't right there, maybe she'd have had to think for a while before making an irrevocable decision.

Promoting suicide is both a legal and moral crime, as it should be.

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Old 06-11-2013, 02:20 PM
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Yeah I have heard of that, its a good program.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:22 PM
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Are single fathers any less worthy of self-protection? Personally, I'd sooner support Krav Maga lessons for all. Might help with the (in)famous Texan weight problem as well.

Then again, the gun training could serve as a social occasion and much needed time away from home and work. Perhaps that would be a benefit in itself.


You really need to spend some time on critical thinking here.

Women generally are smaller and less physical than most men, so they are easily overpowered. They provide firearms to women who live in not so good areas because they are the most at risk to be harmed by an aggressive ex or home invader, etc.

Plus guys generally don't have to deal with getting raped.
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:08 PM
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Speed, you are beyond help.

BTW, someone posted a link on this forum not long ago showing the highest average overweight by state. Texas wasn't in the top fifteen. Of course I'm sure you won't let any facts get in the way of your opinion. It's never seemed to stop you before.
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State rates remained about the same although the number of those with very high rates went from nine to 12. That signifies that at least 30 percent of adults are obese in Alabama (32 percent), Arkansas (30.9 percent), Indiana (30.8 percent), Kentucky (30.4 percent), Louisiana (33.4 percent), Michigan (31.3 percent), Mississippi (34.9 percent), Missouri (30.3 percent), Oklahoma (31.1 percent), South Carolina (30.8 percent), Texas (30.4 percent) and West Virginia (32.4 percent).
CDC unveils national obesity rates: Where does your state rank? - HealthPop - CBS News
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Maybe Texans are just more honest!

OTOH, the CDC's time lapse map is just plain scary:
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html (scroll to bottom of page)
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:13 PM
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Why can't we let people who want to commit suicide do so? Cannot it be their choice?

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Suicide is a sin...
so programs that result in expanding the number of suicides must be sinful...
so those that support those programs must be....
SINNERS!!!

whole buncha folks going to burn on this score.... ya know, if religion is right.
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Maybe Texans are just more honest!

OTOH, the CDC's time lapse map is just plain scary:
Obesity and Overweight for Professionals: Data and Statistics: Adult Obesity - DNPAO - CDC (scroll to bottom of page)
It's not their fault they're fat, there's Waffle Houses everywhere....
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Has diet really changed that much over 15-20 years?
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Deadlier than any gun...
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:43 PM
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Has diet really changed that much over 15-20 years?
The 1980 supersize is today's medium-size, both in fast food servings and American body proportions...
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:01 PM
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:02 PM
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The 1980 supersize is today's medium-size, both in fast food servings and American body proportions...
Did people eat more than one portion when they went out and grabbed a burger and fries at Mickey Dee's ca. 1980? Real question is who eats fast food more than once per week, unless he's on the road?

(Even on the road, you can walk into a grocery and either buy a healthier sandwich or the ingredients to produce the same.)
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:16 PM
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You need to get out more.
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:19 PM
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Did people eat more than one portion when they went out and grabbed a burger and fries at Mickey Dee's ca. 1980? Real question is who eats fast food more than once per week, unless he's on the road?

(Even on the road, you can walk into a grocery and either buy a healthier sandwich or the ingredients to produce the same.)
Millions of people eat fast food multiple times a week, and the processed boxed poison they buy at the grocery store is just as bad. The country is far more obese than it was in the 80s. Portion sizes have increased at an absurd rate. This is hardly news.

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