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Old 06-11-2013, 06:32 PM
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I was referring to the 2008 Smart 42 gasser. I though they sold for much more than $12k in 2008. I don't know and a quick search didn't find me an original msrp.
I think it was in the low $10k's. I'd still rather own. Basically, it may be unfashionable, but outright ownership is against what all the goniffs who are trying to push us toward a "more debt/more annual payment/more consumption" society are pushing.

I'd consider a car-share deal like car2go, but not till prices drop quite a lot. Typically, I use a car for either trips to clients lasting most of a day, or for trips out of town. The sharing services approach $100/day in that situation. Even in Manhattan, I could rent a car from a traditional outlet for about 50-60% of the price on short notice. (It gets a lot cheaper in NJ or in other cities -- I often pay under $100/wk out West).

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:43 PM
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That is a pretty good deal. The collision insurance being included is pretty nice, although you still have to carry liability.

Insurance aside it is essentially the same deal Nissan is offering on the Leaf. Nissan's advertises $199 with $2000 down. 2000/36= $55 or ~$254/month for the leaf with zero down. The money factor on these leases is so low it hardly effects the payment when you make changes to the down payment. Reality is another ~$25/month for tax and license, but that would apply to the Fit also.

After a slow start Nissan is really starting to sell the Leafs. Sales numbers are way up in large part because of the fantastic lease deals in 2013. I am sure Honda saw Nissans numbers and adjusted their campaign accordingly. At these price points the entry level EV's are great deals. Most peopel save more money on gas than the lease payment, effectivley making it a free car (same out of pocket each month yet you have a new EV in the driveway).

I think most families woudl benefit from having an electric car. One car or truck for hauling stuff or road trips and an EV for commuting and grocery store runs.

Resale values on EV's is very bad right now. In large part because the $7500 to $10,000 incentives are not available on used EV's.

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