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The German Resistance repeatedly asked for assistance from the Allies (Great Britain and the United States) to help in the plot to assassinate Hitler. Had that assistance been forthcoming, I'm convinced the war would have ended much sooner and thousands of lives on both sides saved. Someone once explained to me that countries are hesitant to step into a plot against another country's leader, even in time of war. OTH, a strong support network involving the allies would have most likely resulted in a successful assassination of Hitler and ended the war against Germany PRONTO.

from the book review on Amazon:

"lemens von Klemperer's scholarly and detailed study uncovers the beliefs and activities of numerous individuals who fought against Nazism within Germany, and traces their many efforts to forge alliances with Hitler's opponents outside the Third Reich. - ;Klemens von Klemperer's scholarly and detailed study uncovers the beliefs and activities of numerous individuals who fought against Nazism within Germany, and traces their many efforts to forge alliances with Hitler's opponents outside the Third Reich.

Measured by conventional standards of diplomacy, the foreign ventures of the German Resistance ended in failure. The Allied agencies, notably the British Foreign Office and the US State Department, were ill prepared to deal with the unorthodox approaches of the Widerstand. Ultimately, the Allies' policy of `absolute silence', the Grand Alliance with the Soviet Union, and the demand for `unconditional surrender' pushed the war to its final denouement, disregarding the German
Resistance. - ;a massive work by a distinguished historian - New Statesman and Society;a detailed, sympathetic, and meticulously documented chronicle of German resistance diplomacy - Journal of Military History;a superbly researched study - Financial Times"

Amazon.com: German Resistance against Hitler : The Search for Allies Abroad 1938-1945 (Clarendon Paperbacks) eBook: Klemens von Klemperer: Kindle Store

There was no evil on our side, atrocities maybe. Visit a concentration camp and please report back.

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You first. Your statement reminds of an episode ofthe 1990s ABC's series "The Dynosaurs" where the corporation Earl works for is going to launch W.A.R. (WE ARE RIGHT). I call BS, both the United States and England had the smarts and the manpower to aid and assist the German Resistance in taking out Hitler. Instead, they chose to play dumb and stand down. Hitler had many eyes and ears on the ground reporting back to him. Thus, the German resistance required outside aid and support to carry out a successful hit. If you take the time to check your history books, you will learn that the German resistance requested aid and assistance many many times from the Allies but were told no.

The German resistance was extremely small and and I doubt supporting them would have had any effect. Show me one picture where regular Germans welcome allied troops as liberators. I haven't seen them.

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I guess if he is sent back to face the music, that will be one less on Obama-care !!

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Evil is relative. Was there evil in the US equal to Germany, probably not but one could argue it did exist in other forms. SS St. Louis?

My father told me that while in Auschwitz he saw US and British bombers flying over head and never once did they drop their loads on the camps, or train tracks. The US knew exactly what was taking place in the camps and choose to do nothing to stop it. There are other examples which could be argued as evil from certain points of view.

If Hitler is the standard for evil then not much can match it in scope and effectiveness. I would argue that evil exists in many many forms and that the US is not with out guilt.

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I'm sorry your father was in a camp. That would be impossible to imagine how horrible it was.

But.....Until we overran the position of the camps what could the US have done? Bombing the camp would kill innocent people too. Making a big fuss over it would have done what? We were already in the war. The focus was on winning the war.

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You need to look at a map of Auschwitz. Even the bombing capabilities back in WWII would have been adequate enough to just take out the crematoriums or the train tracks into the camp. That wold have saves tens of thousands of lives. My father even said the US could have taken out the camps in their entirety. They would have gladly sacrificed their lives to save the tens of thousands of people who would follow.



If you look where it says 'box cars' and go straight down the track, the picture below shows the entrance.




This was not a small facility by any means. There is ample documentation that shows the knowledge the US government had regarding the camps.

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I'm not sure if you can call a reaction to evil evil.

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I know this is a weird question: would you be happy with that sacrifice, knowing now that you would not have been born?

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I am not sure it was a reaction. To me a reaction is if I throw something at you and you duck or move. Having information and ignoring that info is not a reaction in my opinion.

It is always easier to answer questions like that when you know it will not have an effect.

If I did not exist I would not know it so in that regard, yes I would make that sacrifice. My father said he hoped for the bombs to drop every time he saw the planes. He had not death wish but give the carnage that surrounded him and what he knew was coming he said he would have given his life.

How weird is this. Had my mom and dad not suffered as they had, I would not exist either. So for me to be happy about my existence, I have to be happy/g;ad or what ever word that you want to use that my parents suffered. I wish my folks never had to endure what they did even though it would mean that I never would have existed.

Not sure if that answers your question.

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I think you described in a nutshel the craziness of genocide and war.

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I also could be a simply a matter of Math.
Could it be that a Person who did or caused the murder one Person is not nearly as bad as someone who caused or did murder thousands of people.

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Also, less well know is that the NAZIS had teams that went out into the invaded territories and took the Babies and young Children that looked Aryan; shipped them off to Germany after killing the Parents.

Then there is the reason for the Evil Deeds differ. I don't see that the USA went to War with Germany or Japan (Italy also) because it wanted material gain or domination of their Cultures or their Peoples.
It was simply the Axis Powers became too big of a threat.

I also think that no matter how restrained a Nation tries to be in the conduct of a War at the very least what ever awful thing your Enemy is doing you will do that also.
As an Example in Battle the Japanese did not take many Prisoners; the US Troops reacted by not taking many Prisoners even when they had the chance to.

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