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spdrun 07-04-2013 01:36 PM

Meaning that if your Crapple Store account is lost or deleted for any reason and you need to reactivate your iPhone, you're f**ked. Yay for giving Apple total control over your devices (assuming that this can't be bypassed by a jailbreak "cracktivation" or that it can't be disabled at the owner's request).

I'd much rather deal with the occasional thief than have a multi-national have total control over something I own. Next device will be Android. (Right now, I'm running iOS 4, jailbroken, and no desire to update.)

sloride 07-04-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by David Wilson (Post 3170214)
I am guilty of grocery store line profiling. I can normally pick out the people in line that would have a higher chance of some problem in line. You know who they are.
Pick the other line.

X2- by people in the line, amount in carts, person at register(talking or doing their job and how fast) and attractiveness of the checker.

Brian Carlton 07-04-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloride (Post 3170517)
X2- by people in the line, amount in carts, person at register(talking or doing their job and how fast) and attractiveness of the checker.

All this processing had to be done within about five seconds or so............you need a lot of processing power.:D

MTI 07-04-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3170502)
Meaning that if your Crapple Store account is lost or deleted for any reason and you need to reactivate your iPhone, you're f**ked.

You may want to research the feature before going off half . . . you know.

As the article states, no security system is perfect and a jailbreak hack will eventually find a way past it.

iOS 7: Activation Lock + Find My iPhone | iLounge Article

spdrun 07-04-2013 03:38 PM

Guess what?

I don't f&$king feel like going to roundabout solutions to do something I want to do with something I own. Android isn't as gimped by design as iOS is becoming.

sloride 07-04-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 3170522)
All this processing had to be done within about five seconds or so............you need a lot of processing power.:D

Less then five seconds, unless I am still counting if I have less than 20 items for the express lane. That reminds me the original post could have been worse if had happened in the express checkout line.

Skid Row Joe 07-05-2013 01:45 AM

Well, that's what can happen in retail. I pretty much breeze through Walmart in the self-check out corral. Of the (8) check stands, (4) take cash only, but all (8) take credit/debit cards. Back in the Deep Southern states that I travel, I've noticed a lot of check outs take a loong time. Not so much in the large Texas cities.

iwrock 07-05-2013 02:07 AM

Can't really top any of the stories here, but like most, use the self checkout when possible.

With that said, I have had a few of the self check out machines freeze up while trying to find a vegetable. :( Seems they don't quite have all the bugs worked out.

chasinthesun 07-05-2013 10:49 AM

Ah ,a trip to Walmart ,every corner a new experience.The following was told to me by a co-worker.She started towards the meat counter for lunch meat and some olives ,the long counter had one worker at the far end servicing a customer at the deli ,as 5 minutes went by she was startled by a young women who shot up from behind the counter ,turns out she was texting the whole time ducked down from behind the counter. Fast forward to the check out lane,After checking out she carted by a floor manager who ,you guessed it , was also texting ,he walking straight over to the girl behind the counter,the friendly store slogan has gone by by ,now it should be "GET YOUR STUFF AND GET OUT, YOUR BOTHERING ME.

aklim 07-05-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 3170371)
I'm quite sure you could summon the Lord to bless that new computer and it will work fine for you for the next 10 years. He's got quite a bit of power you know.;)

You know how to summon Bill Gates? :D

aklim 07-05-2013 01:38 PM

Unfortunately, there is no "jerk free" line at any store. I've seen people at 5 star restaurants eat the ENTIRE meal then complain about the food and try to get a free meal or even try to dispute the CC purchase at the restaurant. Seriously, if the food was bad, either eat it and STFU or complain to the manager BEFORE you finish the entire meal.

Grocery shops or local butcher? Same thing. All kinds of inconsiderate jerks like that. Go to McDonnalds? You have people wondering what to eat after waiting in line and when they are in front of the cashier. Gas stations? Trying to talk down the price of a bag of chips.

I am convinced that all it takes is a human being with means, motive and opportunity and they will do something stupid. bad, illegal, etc, etc.

Stretch 07-05-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3170849)
Unfortunately, there is no "jerk free" line at any store. I've seen people at 5 star restaurants eat the ENTIRE meal then complain about the food and try to get a free meal or even try to dispute the CC purchase at the restaurant. Seriously, if the food was bad, either eat it and STFU or complain to the manager BEFORE you finish the entire meal.

Grocery shops or local butcher? Same thing. All kinds of inconsiderate jerks like that. Go to McDonnalds? You have people wondering what to eat after waiting in line and when they are in front of the cashier. Gas stations? Trying to talk down the price of a bag of chips.

I am convinced that all it takes is a human being with means, motive and opportunity and they will do something stupid. bad, illegal, etc, etc.

I used to work in a seriously busy and under staffed bar. You'd get customers getting really angry and aggressive if they weren't served immediately - when it was their turn they'd often turn round to the wife and say "now what do you want dear?" => I'd move on to the next customer who could give a simple, clear and immediate order...

aklim 07-05-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3170860)
I used to work in a seriously busy and under staffed bar. You'd get customers getting really angry and aggressive if they weren't served immediately - when it was their turn they'd often turn round to the wife and say "now what do you want dear?" => I'd move on to the next customer who could give a simple, clear and immediate order...

Did the wife ever say "I'd like the bartender."? :D

Years ago, when I worked in Best Buy, I told the customer emphatically that the card he was buying was cheaper BUT will NOT work for his application. 2 days later, there he was returning the card and blaming us for it not working. Really? You just got done reaming me out for not giving it a chance.

Stretch 07-05-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3170864)
Did the wife ever say "I'd like the bartender."? :D

Years ago, when I worked in Best Buy, I told the customer emphatically that the card he was buying was cheaper BUT will NOT work for his application. 2 days later, there he was returning the card and blaming us for it not working. Really? You just got done reaming me out for not giving it a chance.

I know what you mean - this kind of situation had me running screaming like a mad man from my service industry jobs => but they were a great motivation to join the armed forces and learn how to shoot people!

aklim 07-05-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3170868)
I know what you mean - this kind of situation had me running screaming like a mad man from my service industry jobs => but they were a great motivation to join the armed forces and learn how to shoot people!

I have found that it doesn't matter what job I do. As long as it deals with people, I will get irritated by them.

Stretch 07-06-2013 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3170879)
I have found that it doesn't matter what job I do. As long as it deals with people, I will get irritated by them.

I'm sure that 99% of the problems on earth are people related but - look on the bright side - at least we're not still working in the service industry; catering, sales and IT can all go to hell in a handcart as far as I'm concerned.

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 3170122)
It must be my age creeping up on me.............never would I have believed that I could suffer 12 minutes in silence.

She's got nothing on a Chrysler heat shield.....:eek::eek::D

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ah-kay (Post 3170198)
Really?? I have. Look at my signature.

um.... I looked at your sig... what does it have to do with not allowing impatience to drive your actions at the grocery store?
12 minutes is an eternity when you are next in the que, but in reality just getting to the que is a much larger investment of time....
leaving would cost far more, and engaging such douche bags would only add to the time spent...
likely I would have been unable to resist at least a parting shot at the DB....

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 3170225)
Yep. I commiserated with the cashier and the woman in front of me after the old broad departed. The fact that this woman had a young girl with her also weighed heavily on not making a situation.

damn these douche bags who hide behind the skirts of children....

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 3170399)
I'm torn both ways. I like the independence of the self-checkout and will always take it in HD because it's empty.

But, I rarely take it at the grocery store because it is definitely slower than the cashier, provided the cashier has no line or is just finishing with a single customer. Vegetables at the self-checkout take forever...........you must lookup the code.

I always check out of HD at the pro desk.
Try to never use the self checkouts, all it takes is the machine to be unable to read the code, and now you have to wait for some front end bozo to come and fix it for you... that's a good 5 minutes I'm never getting back...
I've left the product, gotten another one and headed to a real cashier.... probably still losing time, but there is some small degree of satisfaction from the moving and doing....;)

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 3170416)
He is the ONLY One who could make a pc last for 10 years. :eek::eek::eek::D

hmmmm.... "I must be Gawd" he thought, as he typed his response on a 12 year old PC laptop....:D

spdrun 07-06-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3171167)
I always check out of HD at the pro desk.
Try to never use the self checkouts, all it takes is the machine to be unable to read the code, and now you have to wait for some front end bozo to come and fix it for you... that's a good 5 minutes I'm never getting back...

Generally if that happens, I stick the stuff back in the cart and go to a human, leaving the machine yapping "PLEASE WAIT FOR ASSISTANCE, ITEM REMOVED FROM BAGGING AREA" at anyone else who wants to use it till a front-end clown comes around and fixes it.

Brian Carlton 07-06-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3171167)
I always check out of HD at the pro desk.
Try to never use the self checkouts, all it takes is the machine to be unable to read the code, and now you have to wait for some front end bozo to come and fix it for you... that's a good 5 minutes I'm never getting back...
I've left the product, gotten another one and headed to a real cashier.... probably still losing time, but there is some small degree of satisfaction from the moving and doing....;)

I believe this thread had an effect on me and I decided on the spur of the moment to use the self-checkout for groceries yesterday. A machine was open the the regular cashiers has three on the two lines. (two lines on a Friday afternoon...........)

After 15 minutes where the machine went into default (wait for attendant mode) three times and looking up the codes for five different fruits and vegetables, we finally got out of there.

Oh, and NEVER remove a single bag from the bagging area until AFTER you have paid. The machine knows you're stealing their product!!!:rolleyes:

Never again.

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloride (Post 3170517)
X2- by people in the line, amount in carts, person at register(talking or doing their job and how fast) and attractiveness of the checker.

Never pick the most attractive cashier.... that's line selection 101

Brian Carlton 07-06-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3171169)
hmmmm.... "I must be Gawd" he thought, as he typed his response on a 12 year old PC laptop....:D

...............CLK smacks head in disbelief and knocks head over onto floor.............

Brian Carlton 07-06-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3171164)
damn these douche bags who hide behind the skirts of children....

Clarity:

The fat old broad had no child.

The woman in front of me, who's just as inconvenienced, had the child.

Brian Carlton 07-06-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3171159)
She's got nothing on a Chrysler heat shield.....:eek::eek::D

..................20 hours of silence.............oh..........wait............the heat shields don't really care if you insult them.:D

spdrun 07-06-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 3170416)
He is the ONLY One who could make a pc last for 10 years. :eek::eek::eek::D

Oh, IDK. I still have a early-2000s Thinkpad that I use to troubleshoot equipment that has an RS-232 or Centronics port. Upgraded to 2GB or so of RAM -- works fine even for 90% of modern Web sites provided you respect its limitations.

cmbdiesel 07-06-2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 3171176)
Clarity:

The fat old broad had no child.

The woman in front of me, who's just as inconvenienced, had the child.

ah... even worse... using other people's kids as the shield... true blue DB...:D

Benz Dr. 07-06-2013 01:05 PM

There really isn't much difference between your average Canadian and your average American except this one thing: Americans won't stand in line for very long before they become annoyed. We get get pissed off too but we usually won't say or do anything. Some will leave but very few will complain to anyone in charge.

Mike D 07-06-2013 01:30 PM

Yeah, but that's because you still feel a connection with Mother England where queuing up is a national pastime!:D

sloride 07-06-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3171173)
Never pick the most attractive cashier.... that's line selection 101

I really don't unless I am in absolutely no hurry. that way it is much less painful if it does drag out a little.

aklim 07-06-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benz Dr. (Post 3171270)
There really isn't much difference between your average Canadian and your average American except this one thing: Americans won't stand in line for very long before they become annoyed. We get get pissed off too but we usually won't say or do anything. Some will leave but very few will complain to anyone in charge.

Good to know. Now I know where I can go to piss people off and they will take it lying down.


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