Tub removal and installation - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Mike D · #16 07-06-2013, 04:03 PM

Oops! Miss-read on the "P.O.S.".

Still gonna be one heavy, awkward PITA.

Skid Row Joe · #17 07-06-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Going to help my son R&R his bath tub.
How much extra room do you need to get the tub from the vertical position--to get it thru the doorway---to the flat-ready to use position?

Both tubs are P.O.S.

Any advice on removal? Tearing up old subfloor? He plans to put ceramic tile down. I advised at least 3/4" subfloor. Should he add an extra layer and stager the joints?

Any advice---even from political leftists--will be greatly appreciated. Work will be in West Chester, PA of any sidewalk superintendents care to stop by. Hoppy brews will be available as an added inducement.

Get a copy of the TCNA Handbook, and read up on it.....

Rob Pruijt · #18 07-06-2013, 06:41 PM

If the tub is slanted on one side you will need very little extra room to tilt it.

For my en-suite I used a plastic tub, not a cheap one, good quality and 20 years warranty. Very comfy and with double layered tin foil insulation the water stays warm for over a hour.

The floor is two layers plywood coated wit something called Eurocoat (looks like pink plastic when hardened)
Over that a sort of thin felt layer glued to the floor, and the tiles on top of that, this prevents cracking of the joints.
I use a mixture of smooth and anti-slip tiles (same colour) . Anti-slip is very important, most bad accidents in houses are from falling in a bathroom. They are harder to clean so I used them only where I stand.
To avoid sharp corners (cleaning) I used curved tiles for the bottom row.

Rob

MS Fowler · #19 07-06-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Call BS on the "single day." Rushing to install things will cause problems later or injuries.

Either:
(1) Make setting up an outside shower head behind the house part of the renovations. This will come in handy later for washing muddy dogs, washing up after hiking/riding/working in the garden. My family had one at our beach house and it was wonderful -- I used it even in winter, since you'd be surrounded by a bubble of warm steam 15 sec after turning the thing on, and there was no inside shower, only a tub.
(2) Erect a temporary outdoor shower. All you need is a hose snaking out through a basement window to the mixer tap on the utility sink.

I think I mislead you all as to what has to happen in one day----they simply need a functional tub, toilet and vanity. The tile work will take a while longer.
Don't think we can R&R a tub in a single day?

spdrun · #20 07-06-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I think I mislead you all as to what has to happen in one day----they simply need a functional tub, toilet and vanity. The tile work will take a while longer.
Don't think we can R&R a tub in a single day?

With old plumbing and construction, don't bet on it.

Mike D · #21 07-06-2013, 08:17 PM

R&R a tub in one day? Sure. But weren't you going to do some added work to the surface beneath the tub also? Plan for a full day for that IF you don't find some serious water damage.

It'll take at least a couple of hours to hustle the old tub out, another hour or two for prep, an hour to finagle the new tub into place, add an hour for leveling, securing and attaching the drain. Add 25 beer runs at 30 seconds per, carry the two....

You get the idea. It'll be a full day for two inexperienced guys to complete.

cmbdiesel · #22 07-07-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Oops! Miss-read on the "P.O.S.".

Still gonna be one heavy, awkward PITA.

me too.... thought it was an editorial comment....

cmbdiesel · #23 07-07-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I think I mislead you all as to what has to happen in one day----they simply need a functional tub, toilet and vanity. The tile work will take a while longer.
Don't think we can R&R a tub in a single day?

It can be done. Just don't be afraid to push back your schedule if you have subfloor issues to deal with. The floor being flat and secure is the basis for the entire job turning out well, and any skimping will negatively impact the final product.

It is a great idea to check real close around he throne as well, as they tend to build up and deposit a lot of condensation in the summer months, which has a way a deteriorating the subfloor.
Also have seen quite a few where the joists were cut and poorly boxed out for the waste pipe.

Avoid any kind of shimming.... make the floor flat instead....

TwitchKitty · #24 07-07-2013, 10:09 AM

Don't shortcut the rodent proofing and draft proofing at the end of the job. Too many beehives in bathroom walls.

David Wilson · #25 07-07-2013, 10:14 AM

The easiest way to remove the old tub, if it is cast iron. And I know this will work cause I did mine this way.
Take an old blanket, lay it on the tub, and start wailing on it with a 10 lb maul or heavier.
It takes repeated blows in the same spot to get it started, but once you get the first hole, the rest is easy.
Takes about 10 minutes, and then you have small, easy to carry pieces.

cmbdiesel · #26 07-07-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by David Wilson

The easiest way to remove the old tub, if it is cast iron. And I know this will work cause I did mine this way.
Take an old blanket, lay it on the tub, and start wailing on it with a 10 lb maul or heavier.
It takes repeated blows in the same spot to get it started, but once you get the first hole, the rest is easy.
Takes about 10 minutes, and then you have small, easy to carry pieces.

old tub is porcelain over steel....

still fun to whale on with a hammer, but much harder to reduce to little pieces....

David Wilson · #27 07-07-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

old tub is porcelain over steel....

still fun to whale on with a hammer, but much harder to reduce to little pieces....

Never heard of a steel bathtub. I'll bet it's cast.

cmbdiesel · #28 07-07-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David Wilson

Never heard of a steel bathtub. I'll bet it's cast.

Really..... what year is it where you live?

David Wilson · #29 07-07-2013, 02:50 PM

You did say old tub. My old tub was a 1958 model.

So I see they do make steel tubs these days. Have they been around long enough to be called old? Obviously I am not familiar with steel tubs.

Skid Row Joe · #30 07-07-2013, 03:32 PM

Just me - but the plastic/fiberglass, cheezy tub surrounds sicken me to look at 'em. I'm a big fan of the 'old days' of some building materials.....tubs included.

That said, the installation materials and some methods are light years ahead of where they were 30-40 years ago. Certainly the easily accessible fonts of information (Internet) of construction methods are wonderful to have disseminated the industry of kitchen, bath, and flooring. Amazing stuff to see, versus the stone ages of most of the installation products of a few decades ago.