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Zimmerman verdict
I see the verdict is not guilty. It appears there was not enough evidence to convict of anything. Apparently the prosecutor's reluctance to bring charges in the first place has been proven to be appropriate.
Please refrain from personal attacks in this thread. Most of us had feelings one way or another on this but it does no good to attack each other verbally.
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I don't understand why a voice analysis could not tell who was screaming on the tape. Can anyone answer that? Is the autopsy report available to look at? I still wonder about the weight of Martin.
OK, I found the autopsy report on line. TM was 5' 11 and weighed 158#. Autopsy remarked average musculature and a BMI of 22. It mentioned injuries to the knuckles and really nothing else in the way of injuries.
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My view is that if he was aquitted by a jury of his peers, then I will stand by their decision in judging him not guilty, no matter what my opinion prior was.
Cases like this are always a media circus, and its difficult for third party spectators like ourselves to really be sure what's hype, what's fact, and what's media milking of guranteed story.
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Common sense prevailed over PC hysteria. Justice prevailed
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I felt the same way after the OJ trial.
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The prosecution started losing the case with their star witnesses...they all basically turned into witnesses for the defense. They did the best they could with the evidence they had, but it wasn't enough to overcome reasonable doubt. When they decided to go with the lesser charge of Manslaughter, they conceded that they lost. There was no way that any honest jury could say that the shooting was anything less than self defense...especially with Prosecution witness John Good saying that he saw the lighter colored man on the bottom, and the darker colored person on top of him, pummeling him.
It's clear now for everyone that the racial angle is coming from the black community...the head of the NAACP has asked the Feds to get involved and bring civil rights charges against Zimmerman.
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You ca't draw a single parallel with the OJ trial...OJ was guilty as sin, but you can't bring illegally gotten evidence into court. That evidence was gotten without a warrant...
In the end, I was glad to see OJ walk, because it was a constitutional case at that point. I was also glad to see him lose the civil case, because he WAS guilty.
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I am glad to see that immense political and biased social pressure was overcome, racism was overcome, the evidence outweighed conjecture and a fair decision resulted. This should have never been brought to trial, but it was and its over. I hope no one is injured or killed in any backlash from society's rebuttal to the decision.
The blatant manipulation of the information by the media was disgusting...the use of out dated pictures of Martin, the lack of pictures of Zimmermans injuries until very late into the process, the playing and hyping of the race card by the media and its lackeys was unworthy of an Oscar. I hope Angela Corey and her office is investigated for evidence withholding and succumbing to political and social presurre for bringing forward a case that should not have been moved forward if not for the "pressures" that were applied from the White House down, NAACP, Sharpton and his gang and the others who instigated racial presurres to move this case forward. The former police chief of Sanford should sue for compensatory damages and possibly civil rights abuses for his dismissal. The Zimmermans should sue the news outlet, was it NBC, that tampered with the 911 call and broadcasted a manipulated version. The media started the flame, fed the flame, poured gas on the flame to ensure it reached "acceptable" heights of noticabability and then stayed on task to ensure the flames will continue to be fanned. |
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Having been raised in FLA and understanding the change in demographics of the past 40 years, I am not at all surprised by the verdict.
Gated communities and neighborhood watch programs have led to a culture of fear and paranoia in what once was a nice place to live. The distrust of anyone not from this neighborhood attitude is what drove this case from the start and the media hype (local and national) made it a circus. I spent a number of years in broadcast journalism and watched several former collegues fall on their swords covering the killing and the trial. The media hysteria surrounding the trial is another reason why the US needs to follow Canada in blocking all media coverage of a trial in progress. |
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Plexico Burris served time for accidentally shooting...himself.
Micheal Vick served time for shooting/killing....a dog. That is all...
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Wonder if we can get our tax dollars back for the cost incurred by the DOJ in regards to what they did regarding the case.
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Very reassuring to see that common sense prevailed. He should have never been charged. Anyone who believes the verdict was incorrect, is either horribly blinded by their own bigotry or political correctness, OR they did not bother to learn the facts of the case.
BTW, I guess the autopsy report indicating Martins knuckle damage was the result of Zimmerman beating the heck out of Martins knuckles with his head. What a bully!
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Watch how fast the media drops this and tried to start another.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana Posts: 20,630 [I]I don't understand why a voice analysis could not tell who was screaming on the tape[/I I asked myself the exact same question.
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