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A northern Idaho mom suing the president
By Jerry Markon,
Anna Smith is a mother of two who lives in rural Idaho, works the night shift as a nurse and goes to the gym often. She rarely follows the news and knows little about the debate over government surveillance and privacy that has rocked Washington in recent weeks.
None of that is stopping her from suing the president of the United States. Smith is the plaintiff in one of six legal challenges that have been filed over the government’s far-reaching collection of telephone and Internet records. Her attorney is her husband. She doesn’t understand the legal technicalities and worries that the case could distract from her job and parenting duties. But the Idaho native knows how she feels about the prospect of anyone tracking calls from her cellphone: She’s outraged. “It’s none of their business what I’m doing — who I call, when I call, how long I talk,” Smith, 32, said in a telephone interview. She added, “I think it’s awesome that I have the right to sue the president. I’m just a small-town girl.” Smith’s lawsuit, filed June 12 in federal court in Idaho, names President Obama “in his official capacity as President of the United States of America,” along with other top officials. Like most of the other cases, it urges a judge to declare unconstitutional a National Security Agency program that scoops up the telephone records of millions of Americans from U.S. telecommunications companies. |
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Anyone care to wager whether she'll get her $400 filing fee back?
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I don't bet with lawyers about fees. I don't see much of a chance of actually collecting if they are any kind of competent!
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waiting for the first to poo poo her since she is from Idaho and certainly a white seperatist....
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What? Idaho's part of the United States? When did this happen?
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Uh what? Hope this is sarcasm; just because you had a few asshats like Randy Weaver (who, regardless of being an asshat, he and his family were treated abominably by the ATF and friends) doesn't make it OK to judge the entire state on that basis.
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Idaho is a big and gorgeous state wherein reside many fine people. It also has some wide open, remote spaces where people looking to explore semi-weird, sorta-dropout lifestyles are sometimes moved to explore.
Oh well . . .
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Same deelio in Vermont (with more hippies and probably fewer racist dbags). Lots of dropouts and semi-anarchical types, which is why I plan to buy property there sooner than later, so if TSHTF, I can join 'em. Last edited by spdrun; 07-26-2013 at 05:26 PM. |
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Geez, angry man. Nothing wrong with it but some such people are sometimes sort of 'misfit' like. My point was trying to describe all Idahoans thusly is weak.
And your talk of 'pigs' is tiresome.
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If you're not angry, you're not G-d damned paying attention. Hope this country ends up going the way of Turkey (or Chicago ca. '68) in the next five years ... it's overdue for a high colonic.
I'm lucky, since I started my own business, and have enough rental property to be basically free of housing expenses in NYC. But the situation that 95% of Americans are in is tragic. And it's being made worse by dirt like Bernanke, who are attempting to inflate housing and commodity prices to keep the average American on the treadmill and make life even less affordable. Good on everyone who drops out after realizing that the latest Chinese electronic geewgaw and leased car isn't the pinnacle of human life. To misquote Star Wars: "the more you clamp down, the more will slip through your fingers." |
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But you yourself, who apparently makes money on other people not being free of housing expenses, are free of all blame, the one honest man in all of creation.
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I'm also renting to one person who found it difficult to find a place elsewhere nice because of his ethnicity, I may add as well. |
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Some folks have said that Zimmerman ought to sue everyone involved in bringing his case to trial, but Zimmerman is as out of luck on this as this lady is in her lawsuit. The principal of Sovereign Immunity is why.
In Nixon v Fitzgerald it was established that the President of the US has Absolute Immunity from lawsuits arising from his duties as President. Clinton cited this case when he was sued by Paula Jones, but the Court ruled against him and said since the suit arose from actions said to have been taken by him while he was Governor of Arkansas Nixon v Fitzgerald did not apply. (Clinton had agreed to the suit but wanted to wait until he was out of office. The Court said no.) While she is at it she should also sue G. W. Bush since he started the program, but she would have just as much luck with that lawsuit as this one. |
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Precedents don't have an indefinite lifetime, and who knows, there may be other parties to the case as well.
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Now he is glad he held on to his houses since they are providing him with a steady source of income. He says it pains him to say it, but his fear of high Capital Gains taxes might have saved his investment. I told him maybe, but perhaps he just got lucky. And... I asked him how low would these taxes have to go in order for him to sell and he said 'zero'. He used to back Republicans since he figured they would do away with the CG tax, but since they have controlled the House for five years and done nothing in the way of ditching this tax he has given up on them. |
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