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Old 09-04-2013, 06:40 PM
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Best water heater?

Mine is leaking. Need a gas fired tanked version. Current capacity is 40 gallons. I think I'll go up to 50 gallons. Anyone have evidence of superior quality heaters? Box stores offer 6, 9 and 12 year warrantied versions.

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Old 09-04-2013, 08:12 PM
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I can't really answer your question, but I read an interesting piece ( think it was in Fortune of Forbes around the beginning of the year)on GE pulling back water heater production from China and putting it back in Appliance Park. I would give them a look.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:40 PM
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Do a search for "Anode" in a Water Heater. Screwed into the Top of Most Water Heaters attached to what looks like a Pipe Plug is an Anode. In use the Anode gets eaten up instead of the Tank. When the Anode kaput the Tank starts to get eaten up.
One of the things that the More expensive Water Heaters have is longer of more Anodes and that is one of the reasons life of the Water Heater is increased.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:08 PM
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Our German neighbor has something that heats the water instantly as it runs through the pipe. She raves about it -- I'll have to ask her what it's called.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:22 PM
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Bosch makes tankless water heaters and I have heard nothing but good stuff about them. The only drawback is cost.

They really, really work but the main advantage is the space savings. If you live in downtown Tokyo this could be the way to go.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:29 PM
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Bosch makes tankless water heaters and I have heard nothing but good stuff about them. The only drawback is cost.

They really, really work but the main advantage is the space savings. If you live in downtown Tokyo this could be the way to go.
The other drawback is that they need a bigger gas supply line, since they have to heat the water immediately rather than gradually.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:10 PM
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Bosch makes tankless water heaters and I have heard nothing but good stuff about them. The only drawback is cost.
It must be Bosch, then. She loves Bosch.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:38 PM
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They need a larger vent also because of the larger flame. Also, there is limited volume in a tankless. We have two units in our house. Need a big tankless to feed more than one hot water faucet at a time. In theory the tankless are better. In specific circumstances, it may be better to stick with a tanked version.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:43 PM
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One of the Names for the tankless Water Heater is an On Demand Water Heater.
I though there was Electric Tankless ones?
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:46 PM
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I find it annoying that box stores don't stock the sacrificial anodes. The business model is to sell a new heater every 10 years, not sell the cheap anodes that can double tank life.

The tankless can get expensive if you have to redo wiring, but they are a lot more energy efficient once installed.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:33 AM
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They need a larger vent also because of the larger flame. Also, there is limited volume in a tankless. We have two units in our house. Need a big tankless to feed more than one hot water faucet at a time. In theory the tankless are better. In specific circumstances, it may be better to stick with a tanked version.
Tankless have issues. Sometimes using only a small flow, say as done with shaving, will not prompt the flame to kick in. Regular maintenance is required with tankless. A water softner is often needed to prevent the heating coils from liming up, else they need to be cleaned regularly.

I gather that Bradford White are highly thought of. I put one in (50 gallon tank, traditional gas) for some clients who do major research on every purchase of that sort and Bradford White is what they came up with. Subsequent to that I did some searching and seems it's true. I don't think they can be had at big box stores - more a plumbing/tradesman supply outlet thing.

We replaced the drain valve with a ball valve. More effective way to drain off any tank residue down the road. I put a cap over the end of it as it might be easier to accidentally hit the lever on one of those than to twist on the old style valve.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:57 AM
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One of the Names for the tankless Water Heater is an On Demand Water Heater.
I though there was Electric Tankless ones?
I was surprised to learn that there are numerous advantages of electric on-demand vs. gas. The price of each in your locale is big factor. Pac NW, electric makes sense. Smaller and less expensive, they are also cheaper to install: no flue. A big issue is having a large enough flow of amps to the house. 200 amps is often needed and many houses don't have that capacity. Upgrading on that can be spendy.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:46 AM
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When we built our house 22 years ago we had four kids at home. In the morning I was the last into the shower and always ran out of hot water. I got tired of it so installed a commercial gas fired tank type. I believe its 50 or 60 gal but has an oversized burner for quick recovery. Its going strong still and never had a problem. I believe I paid about 500 for it back then so a similar one now would prolly be 1500 or so. No regrets on that purchase.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:50 AM
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I've installed the quick recovery tanks before. Good if there's one tank and many people. Probably not worth it in this case. I did look up a commercial 50 gall online and it was $3300. Maybe there are less expensive ones.
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:24 AM
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Does anyone know if buying a tank with a 9 or 12 yr warranty gets you a better manufactured tank or are you just paying for an extended warranty on the same tank you'd get in a 6yr heater? I have no idea what constitutes a better water tank. Thicker steel? Different steel?

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