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Old 09-15-2013, 01:51 AM
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PORSCHE ENGINE FAILURES

do you have one that was manufactured from 2001-2005?

and did your engine just blow-up?

so far, i found this to be a hidden history. except for all those porsche usa vultures hanging out at the porsche north houston dealership so as to transport failed vehicles back to atlanta.

and then, in this week's AUTOWEEK, the story has become revealed.

and now i understand why my service writer[styled as consultant] departed. he couldn't look his customers in the face while porsche was denying its defective engines.

and porsche wins the j.d. power quality trophy?

m-b was bad enough some years ago. but add another bunch of nazis to the roster of customer-unfriendly vehicle manucturers.

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Old 09-15-2013, 12:59 PM
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but add another bunch of nazis to the roster of customer-unfriendly vehicle manucturers.
How many car makers can you name that openly, readily admit that they engineered and built craptastic vehicles?
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:24 PM
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So how long should an engine last before blowing up? What is a reasonable expectation?
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:28 PM
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So how long should an engine last before blowing up? What is a reasonable expectation?
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150k+ miles is a given these days, considering that hitting 100k is very common.
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:29 PM
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An engine cared for minimally should never blow up. Wear out maybe but not blow up unless run low on oil or water.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:42 PM
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do you have one that was manufactured from 2001-2005?

and did your engine just blow-up?

so far, i found this to be a hidden history. except for all those porsche usa vultures hanging out at the porsche north houston dealership so as to transport failed vehicles back to atlanta.

and then, in this week's AUTOWEEK, the story has become revealed.

and now i understand why my service writer[styled as consultant] departed. he couldn't look his customers in the face while porsche was denying its defective engines.

and porsche wins the j.d. power quality trophy?

m-b was bad enough some years ago. but add another bunch of nazis to the roster of customer-unfriendly vehicle manucturers.
It sounds as if you believe this to be some carefully guarded secret.

The intermediate shaft problem is quite widely known and understood in Porsce circles and beyond. There have been several variations of the intermediate shaft bearing, and in later models it has been eliminated with a different timing chain arrangement.

A properly cared for and driven engine has an extremely low chance of experiencing this failure and there are upgrades to reduce the chance of failure to near zero.

Anyone considering a Porsche with the IFS arrangement should educate themselves before hand. In this day of automotive discussion forums, people have massive sources of data available to study before purchasing.

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Old 09-15-2013, 07:49 PM
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PM will not save your engine because this is a design DEFECT. Its interesting that if you engine has gone beyond 60,000 miles it is very UNLIKELY the fault will occur. Almost all the failures were low mileage cars.

Someone makes a fix for it that can be retrofitted, but its not Porsche. They would have to admit a problem first.

Remember these are the same guys that sent out an army of lawyers to attack ANYONE that used the word Porsche anywhere. Even if the person was not in any sort of business. I think they tried to make it impossible for you to even post a picture of your own car, but that did not go anywhere.
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IMHO, Every Porsche after the 356 & early 911 has been an overly complex nightmare. There is nothing reliable about them.
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I hear you can't even find the oil plug on them!
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:58 PM
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Are you talking about the IMS failure?
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PM will not save your engine because this is a design DEFECT. Its interesting that if you engine has gone beyond 60,000 miles it is very UNLIKELY the fault will occur. Almost all the failures were low mileage cars.

Someone makes a fix for it that can be retrofitted, but its not Porsche. They would have to admit a problem first.

Remember these are the same guys that sent out an army of lawyers to attack ANYONE that used the word Porsche anywhere. Even if the person was not in any sort of business. I think they tried to make it impossible for you to even post a picture of your own car, but that did not go anywhere.

Yes, on certain intermediate shaft bearing variations, frequent oil changes will indeed reduce the failure rate. Some models have a fully sealed bearing while other models do not. In the reading I've done, most all bearings that failed were full of gunk due to infrequent oil changes.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:12 PM
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This is why I would only own a modern German car under warranty. If it breaks, here are the keys service adviser guy, where is my rental? 15k mile oil changes? No problem, maintained to the book by the dealer, if it pops, its Porsche's problem.
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porchegirl still needs to know how to change her oil filter....

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Old 09-18-2013, 02:04 AM
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The factory bearing is sealed and lubrication is the issue causing failure. The turbo cars and GT3 cars do NOT have this problem, they have pressure fed bearings. So obviously the design of the bearing is at fault, and can certainly be aggravated by improper oil maintenance. The replacement everybody uses is from LN Engineering, and the dealers use it too. The job is expensive, but if you are doing a RMS or clutch job, the incremental cost is not a big deal.

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Yes, on certain intermediate shaft bearing variations, frequent oil changes will indeed reduce the failure rate. Some models have a fully sealed bearing while other models do not. In the reading I've done, most all bearings that failed were full of gunk due to infrequent oil changes.

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