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Old 09-17-2013, 10:45 AM
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This paper explains it all !!

Why Generation Y Yuppies Are Unhappy | Wait But Why

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Old 09-17-2013, 10:51 AM
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Those damn kids these days!
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:20 PM
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:54 PM
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There's no doubt that Gen Y's and Millennials are different critters. But if you figure out how they're wired, you can get a helluva lot out of them. Bottom line is I need X amount of production a day. I don't care how I get to X as long as it gets done when I need it done and I hit the numbers I need hit.

I could be an old fart Gen X'er and b!tch about the "kids these days" but, quite frankly, I just give them a little more leash and a bit more recognition and when I leave the building at the end of the day the end result is the same.

My sister is square in the middle of the Gen Y demographic. I've seen a lot of the traits first hand (except she was never coddled by my parents). She took awhile to figure out her direction, realizing she wanted to be in business for herself. She now owns a successful print shop in Taos, NM, launched and arts/entertainment/culture website for the area and will soon be opening an art gallery with a couple fellow artist friends after some successful showings at established galleries and museums.

Perspective can be quite limiting if you allow it to be. I choose to figure out how to exploit them.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:19 PM
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For some reason reading that made me feel better about my chitty (but reasonably good-paying) job.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:35 PM
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A touch crude (if you include silly swear words in your list of crude things), but makes a fair set of valid points:

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Bottom line is I need X amount of production a day. I don't care how I get to X as long as it gets done when I need it done and I hit the numbers I need hit.
Swamp dude, you've nailed it. What I use to motivate my test developers in Maryland bears ZERO resemblance to what I use to motivate my test developers in Guandong Province. Nor does it bear any resemblance to what I use to motivate my process engineers in Guadalajara, my kidlet in California, or the Bat**** Crazy Basenji/Border Collie mix at my feet.

Geography, species, culture, place in time - all the same (i.e. they're all valid variables). You gotta know what each individual needs before you can define the carrot.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:12 PM
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Everyone is different.

I like hiring competent Gen Y'ers because all I need to do is text them, I ned X and Y done by Friday. NP its done.

I'm smack in the middle of Y and for all of my generations problems we are very competent in a lot of areas. Its not fair to paint us with such a negative brush right out of the gate.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:15 PM
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Well to be fair generation x is a bunch of stubborn nonsensical hippies
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:17 PM
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Yeah and cry about old stuff like the Cold War.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:23 AM
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Some things change, and other things never change.

The youngsters of today are learning that loyalty to one company or employer is hardly ever worthwhile. The employers these days are going to partimers, no health insurance coverage of their employees, and generally a strong desire to turn employees over to continually get fresh talent, all the while knowing they're going to be letting them go in a matter of months. -I read that very thing on this forum a matter of months ago by an employer that was quite proud of turning over employees. -Though I would seriously doubt that those employees were told this when hired and going to work for them....

I don't blame the young uns for looking out for themselves in today's marketplace. One statistic I heard recently, was that a 20 year old will have 6+ different employers by their 30th birthday! They've got to adjust!
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Old 09-18-2013, 10:48 AM
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Some things change, and other things never change.

The youngsters of today are learning that loyalty to one company or employer is hardly ever worthwhile. The employers these days are going to partimers, no health insurance coverage of their employees, and generally a strong desire to turn employees over to continually get fresh talent, all the while knowing they're going to be letting them go in a matter of months. -I read that very thing on this forum a matter of months ago by an employer that was quite proud of turning over employees. -Though I would seriously doubt that those employees were told this when hired and going to work for them....

I don't blame the young uns for looking out for themselves in today's marketplace. One statistic I heard recently, was that a 20 year old will have 6+ different employers by their 30th birthday! They've got to adjust!
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To me, the biggest forces at work are: focus and ambition. many people don't focus, really focus and identify what they want in life, then figure out how to get it, understanding that the way things change may disrupt some of their plans.
I originally wanted to be a language teacher. I hooked up with a university that needed people to go overseas and test the feasibility of a foreign exchange program. I worked my butt off when there. 52 hours a week, spread over 6 days. Actually got a separate foreign degree.
I returned, finished school, got drafted. Instead of spending my time in the infantry as a draftee, I parlayed my original term of service into special duty, by talking all the government language exams and maxing them. I ended up doing quasi-diplomatic work. I used that later to get an appointment to do officer work and used the GI Bill to get an MA.
From there I went to business and emphasized the skills I had, and got hired "in case we have to deal with the French and the French Canadians." I parlayed that into an international business career and learned other languages and things got better over 25 years. I met guys inside the company who were average Joes like me, they helped me see how people saved money and so I was able to set aside for retirement.
I went back into the Army and government service for a while and they always need people who speak other languages and don't have a criminal record. That worked out ok, I met more average Joes and set aside more cash.
It's all about the focus. Here's an example.
My son got a sizeable inheritance as an insurance settlement when his mother died. He has run through the GI Bill benefits he received from me. And another 30% of the inheritance.
I sent him a note the other day that his lack of responding to investments which I told him about has cost him $ 14,000 of missed investmnent profit. If he goes broke, TS for him. He keeps telling me he's gonna do something, but I haven't see him come to me with a checkbook in hand to establish a brokerage account.
He could start increasing his income through investments or he could piddle it away and and be a burly hipster living in thje cool part of town, smoking hand-rolled cigarettes of custom tobacco.
As much as I hate to say it, being a father, it's his choice on what to focus on as he finishes the last few credits of his degree, which he has been procrastinating on.
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Old 09-18-2013, 10:55 AM
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Since you got me started, I'll give you another example.

A guy I know, who has little college but a lot of skills, plus he is a skilled tradesman, cannot find work because the union let employers know he is in the Army reserve, so they won't pick him in case he gets mobilized for Afghanistan.

He's dying to work, but he says he cannot be employed in his trade, so he has no job prospects.

I immediately disagreed.

Know what he's doing now? He's working as an interviewer, helping companies by interviewing skilled trades people for jobs since the white collar interviewers have no idea what questions to ask.

This is what we decided he could do immediately, which he did by walking into an office and asking to see the manager of the employment agency and ask them who their speailist in skilled trades was.

Now he's that guy.

It just takes perseverance.
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Well to be fair generation x is a bunch of stubborn nonsensical hippies
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Yeah and cry about old stuff like the Cold War.
Hey, screw you two whippersnappers! Most of the crotchety old farts here are Boomers not X'ers!

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