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cmac2012 09-21-2013 01:46 PM

2 CCW guys meet... and kill each other.
 
Road rage shootout leaves two drivers dead | wzzm13.com

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Ionia, Mich. (September 18, 2013)

Two drivers are dead after a road rage incident escalated into a shootout. The incident happened around 6:45 p.m. Wednesday on M-66 near Steele Street.

Witnesses tell WZZM 13 one driver was following another driver too closely. The first driver pulled into the Wonder Wand Car Wash parking lot and the other driver followed him into the lot.

Witnesses say the driver of the following car fired shots, and the first driver returned fire. Both drivers were shot and killed. Authorities say both men had licenses to carry concealed weapons.

The victims are both from Ionia. Robert Taylor, 56, was driving a Chrysler PT Cruiser. The other driver, James Pullum, 43, was driving a Ford Taurus. According to Police, Pullum had two passengers in his vehicle, but neither was injured.

People at a nearby laundromat found both men lying on the ground and started performing CPR. AeroMed was called to the scene and landed, but did not transport a patient to the hospital.

t walgamuth 09-21-2013 01:51 PM

Thank goodness they had permits to carry.;)

spdrun 09-21-2013 01:59 PM

Ionia -- wonder if they were prison guards. If so, couldn't happen to nicer people. Good riddance.

t walgamuth 09-21-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3210360)
Ionia -- wonder if they were prison guards. If so, couldn't happen to nicer people. Good riddance.

Are you an ex con?

Dubyagee 09-21-2013 02:02 PM

I thought repubs were the only people that got happy when citizens die. Whats going on here?

spdrun 09-21-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3210361)
Are you an ex con?

No, I just dislike the incarceration system and people who work for it as a matter of principle. People who do violence for a living meeting a violent end -- call it karma. It's a national disgrace that we keep almost 1% of our population locked up at any given time, and disturbing that some towns have almost as many convicts as people, Ionia being one of them.

Though it looks like the guy who DIDN'T shoot first was a mechanic and a decent man. No word on the other guy:
Mother who witnessed fatal road rage shootout says other driver followed car, shot first | MLive.com

MTI 09-21-2013 02:26 PM

The should have just talked it out over a nice warm chocolate chai tea latte and blueberry scones. . .

Jorn 09-21-2013 02:32 PM

Ask friends and neighbors about a killer and 98% of the time the answer will be: "he was a friendly and a good guy."

spdrun 09-21-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn (Post 3210375)
Ask friends and neighbors about a killer and 98% of the time the answer will be: "he was a friendly and a good guy."

In this case, looks like the mechanic was the victim, though he saved the state of MI the cost of prosecuting his murderer.

Jorn 09-21-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3210377)
In this case, looks like the mechanic was the victim, though he saved the state of MI the cost of prosecuting his murderer.

You're right, lets make it 97%.

t walgamuth 09-21-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3210367)
No, I just dislike the incarceration system and people who work for it as a matter of principle. People who do violence for a living meeting a violent end -- call it karma. It's a national disgrace that we keep almost 1% of our population locked up at any given time, and disturbing that some towns have almost as many convicts as people, Ionia being one of them.

Though it looks like the guy who DIDN'T shoot first was a mechanic and a decent man. No word on the other guy:
Mother who witnessed fatal road rage shootout says other driver followed car, shot first | MLive.com

That's like the people who spit on our returning draftees from Vietnam. Its not the foot soldier who decides how the system is going to be. He's just a poor sap trying to put food on his table....same with a prison guard.

spdrun 09-21-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3210385)
That's like the people who spit on our returning draftees from Vietnam. Its not the foot soldier who decides how the system is going to be. He's just a poor sap trying to put food on his table....same with a prison guard.

"Just following orders" is a poor excuse. And prison guards, cops, etc aren't draftees.

cmbdiesel 09-21-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3210371)
The should have just talked it out over a nice warm chocolate chai tea latte and blueberry scones. . .

....at Starbucks

t walgamuth 09-21-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3210388)
"Just following orders" is a poor excuse. And prison guards, cops, etc aren't draftees.

Who said anything about following orders? Just because our incarceration system is wrong-minded does not make every person in it a bad person.

P.C. 09-21-2013 04:11 PM

They were owners of a PT Cruiser and a Taurus? Perhaps this was just a case of mutual euthanasia...


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