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Old 09-25-2013, 05:34 PM
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Could it be that he feared for his safety? Living with a borderline psychotic person in a country where guns are easier to get than credit cards might not be an ideal situation.

But unless there's evidence of actual violence or abuse, he'd find it difficult to get a restraining order against her.
Although I'd like to read/see what doodaddy sez...... We have a 3rd party story going here. Thusly, I would not expect just a lot of cogent info/facts from it.


Rule #1: NEVER LEAVE - GIVING UP YOUR OWN HOME.
Why TF would you?!
(Every divorce lawyer will tell you to not give up your house, especially when you A) have no money, and B) have no job or income>.....that's just foolish!)

Rule #2: Call the POLICE when threatened by your spouse.
(IF, as you suspect the above actually happens......)


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Rule #2: Call the POLICE when threatened by your spouse.
(IF, as you suspect the above actually happens......)
And if she's acting unstable but not directly threatening you, and you know she's owned a gun in the past -- what do you do? Neither acting uneven nor keeping a gun is illegal in the US, or cause for police action.

Things like this are (sadly) often only resolved after the fact with one person ending up shot, and the other person in prison for a long time.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:45 PM
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And if she's acting unstable but not directly threatening you, and you know she's owned a gun in the past -- what do you do? Neither acting uneven nor keeping a gun is illegal in the US, or cause for police action.

Things like this are (sadly) often only resolved after the fact with one person ending up shot, and the other person in prison for a long time.
Well, then you have to arm yourself. Should be easy enough to do. Would suggest sleeping in a bedroom with a lock on the door, if one suspects violence......but never give up your own home. -That, was my point.
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Although I'd like to read/see what doodaddy sez...... We have a 3rd party story going here. Thusly, I would not expect just a lot of cogent info/facts from it.


Rule #1: NEVER LEAVE - GIVING UP YOUR OWN HOME.
Why TF would you?!
(Every divorced lawyer will tell you to not give up your house, especially when you A) have no money, and B) have no job or income>.....that's just fooolish!)

Rule #2: Call the POLICE when threatened by your spouse.
(IF, as you suspect the above actually happens......)
Perhaps he would have had to sleep with one eye open? In the interest of keeping the peace, it may be better for one or the other parties to leave until they can work things out. I've sat through a few court hearings and without fail the most volatile are divorce proceedings. A business contract dispute is a walk in the park compared to divorce. It might be safer living at the local YMCA than to stay at the house.......
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Well, then you have to arm yourself. Should be easy enough to do. Would suggest sleeping in a bedroom with a lock on the door, if one suspects violence......but never give up your own home. -That, was my point.
Is keeping your house really worth your life? You have to sleep and leave your bedroom sometimes!
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I've never understood how two people who supposedly loved and cared about each other turn into mortal enemies.
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I've never understood how two people who supposedly loved and cared about each other turn into mortal enemies.
I can see why that might confuse you.
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I've never understood how two people who supposedly loved and cared about each other turn into mortal enemies.
Seems to happen every day. There are amicable divorces but the majority tend to produce hard feelings. Part of the answer to your question may be we marry a much different animal than ourselves. You treat them well and they reciprocate and it can work. Becomimg a team is even better. That fortunately became my situation.

Get either animal on a different agenda or page and there can be problems. Since in the north American culture at one time or another in their lives mental illness will occur in ten percent of the population unfortunately can be another factor. Emotions can run so high that any logical approach is thrown out the door. Remember that in human nature you are so far getting only one side of the story. There are two.

Sounds like there are not too many assets to haggle about anyways. Once the serious bickering gets underway usually the situation breaks down in one fashion or another. As usual unfortunately there are kids involved..Your friend will in all probability get to pay child support but perhaps not alimony. She has to prove something pretty serious for a judge to deny any visitation with the kids usually.

It is just my opinion that most of us guys are not competent to raise children on our own. I doubt if I could have managed it. Very long hours with no motherly instincts. Probably pretty demanding especially if you are working. If my wife passed away for example and the children where young I would have to have another wife is almost a certainty.
Life can become far from easy.

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Old 09-26-2013, 01:34 AM
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I've never understood how two people who supposedly loved and cared about each other turn into mortal enemies.
Not that difficult to understand. Today, our meets are similar and we are BFF. Tomorrow, things change and our needs are different so screw you and the horse you rode in on.
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Perhaps he would have had to sleep with one eye open? In the interest of keeping the peace, it may be better for one or the other parties to leave until they can work things out. I've sat through a few court hearings and without fail the most volatile are divorce proceedings. A business contract dispute is a walk in the park compared to divorce. It might be safer living at the local YMCA than to stay at the house.......
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Is keeping your house really worth your life? You have to sleep and leave your bedroom sometimes!
NFW I'd leave a home I owned. If she's so upset and crazy, she'll leave. No doubt about it. If she changes the locks, break the door down and change the locks when she leaves. Get the picture? I don't leave my sweat equity. Nobody "kicks me out of MY house" - as doodaddy's pally let happen to him.

Read doodaddy's 3rd party story again.......no where did it say he was under ANY court order to vacate.

Read also that doodaddy reported the guy is jobless, and has NO money......

Maybe some of you guys would run, but I would not. Nobody separates me from my domicile and my kid, unless it's a court-order. If the wife steals away with the kid? Call the police as a possible abduction....

You leave your house and your kid voluntarily with NO MONEY AND NO JOB?? You've got nothing. Not one thing left to live for IMO. I'm stayin', packing a pistol to defend myself if necessary, but I'm stayin' regardless....

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NFW I'd leave a home I owned. If she's so upset and crazy, she'll leave. No doubt about it. If she changes the locks, break the door down and change the locks when she leaves. Get the picture? I don't leave my sweat equity.

Read doodaddy's 3rd party story again.......no where did it say he was under ANY court order to vacate.

Read also that doodaddy reported the guy is jobless, and has NO money......

Maybe some of you guys would run, but I would not. Nobody separates me from my domicile and my kid, unless it's a court-order. If the wife steals away with the kid? Call the police as a possible abduction....

You leave your house voluntarily with NO MONEY AND NO JOB?? You've got nothing. Not one thing left to live for IMO. I'm stayin', packing a pistol too, but I'm stayin' regardless....
Joe the system does not favor the male. I believe you are not married. It can get so bad you just would have to exit. Even if the police are called they will remove the male rather than the female and children.

In this case there may be a clue. Lack of money accounts for a sizable amount of divorces is a statistic that is kicked around and probably valid. He has no income we are to understand. Basically if the woman wants the male out and there are children it will usually be accomplished. Juristictions vary but there is usually some commonality across the board..With issues like this we males usually gang up and the females gang up. Just human nature I suppose. At this point we really have no accurate knowledge of what has actually occurred.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:50 AM
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Although I'd like to read/see what doodaddy sez...... We have a 3rd party story going here. Thusly, I would not expect just a lot of cogent info/facts from it.


Rule #1: NEVER LEAVE - GIVING UP YOUR OWN HOME.
Why TF would you?!
(Every divorce lawyer will tell you to not give up your house, especially when you A) have no money, and B) have no job or income>.....that's just foolish!)

Rule #2: Call the POLICE when threatened by your spouse.
(IF, as you suspect the above actually happens......)
Good advice.
Use your mobile phone as a tape recorder for proof of her behavior. Using a different bedroom is a good idea. I suspect we are only getting 1/3 of the story.
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Love and Hate are flip sides of the same coin.

Emotional attachments between people are a primal thing and are exploited by modern culture which is all about money for the big interests.

Why do they feel like pawns in a big game where nobody cares?

Attachment theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Attachment in adults - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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False accusation by women is something I never lived through but have recently learned a little about. Dating has changed a hell of a lot since I came of age. I never heard of prenup until the 1980's and now it seems like some guys won't even date a women until they have compiled a paper trail to show intent if the law gets involved. Kinda stinks.
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Love and Hate are flip sides of the same coin.

Emotional attachments between people are a primal thing and are exploited by modern culture which is all about money for the big interests.

Why do they feel like pawns in a big game where nobody cares?

Attachment theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Attachment in adults - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I tend to agree that what is reffered to as love is a very strong emotion or involvement and also is probably primal in nature. It is perhaps only natural if it is displaced a primal emotion just as strong may arise. Something close to the same emotional power is going to fill the void. Seldom positive ones but it may be possible.


Hate if you wish in my mind could easily be one of the resultant emotions. There are a lot more or at least no shortage of other combinations of negative emotions to equal the strength.

We humans as a rule need to cultivate balance as away of life. It probably has massive rewards but may not be instinctual to us as it is to dogs. If you are not unhappy perhaps you are at least semi balanced. As an example you generally are not cognizant of the fact that you are happy. Still always certainly well aware when you are not in spades. Balance may be something we seldom explore still I feel it is always worth seeking more of it. First though if you are a simple person like myself you have to absorb the fact that it is a very important component in life. Too many people partially disable themselves by carrying emotional crutches. When they should be disgarded. Probably easier said than done.


For my generation and age group there has been frequent discussion that couples do not split up because of asset issues. Still as we know by statistics this area of older people separating is also growing.

That is not our own personal situation thank god. We actually get along very well with mutual respect . This of course could change almost instantainiously but is not expected to. Other than at some point either the wife or myself will pass on. I cannot visualize a time without her but it very well may happen. Statistically I get out of the house first but there is no certainty of that either. So see Joe once I expire I leave the house first even if I am armed.

What is described as wisdom like money is a cumulative thing. You get more of it usually far later than when it would have been more practical or beneficial to have it.


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