|
|
|
#1
|
||||
|
||||
Did you know?- 2008 BMW 335i has no dipstick
my neighbor has one, he came over last night for help in checking his oil (some dummy light came on maybe)....alas...no dipstick.
I wonder what the engineers where thinking?
__________________
Ben 1987 190d 2.5Turbo |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
Yup, neither does my 135i with the newer N55 engine. It is an annoyance.
__________________
TC Current stable: - 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL - 2007 Saturn sky redline - 2004 Explorer...under surgery. Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
And probably the same for those buying Certified Pre Owned or whatever BMW calls theirs? They don't care a lick about the 3rd and 4th owners who will likely get their hands dirty and service their own vehicles.
__________________
1980 300TD-China Blue/Blue MBTex-2nd Owner, 107K (Alt Blau) OBK #15 '06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod) |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
ok. so how do you or how does the dealer check the oil level?
__________________
Ben 1987 190d 2.5Turbo |
#5
|
||||
|
||||
Probably plug it in? Just talking out of my @$$ since I don't own one, but don't most modern, higher end engines use internal oil diagnostics to determine oil change intervals and levels?
__________________
1980 300TD-China Blue/Blue MBTex-2nd Owner, 107K (Alt Blau) OBK #15 '06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod) |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
I'm guessing that there's a warning light when the oil level drops below spec. Some BMWs as old as the 80s had it -- I know that e28's had this on the "diagnostic panel" near the mirror.
Hopefully they made the sensor damned reliable. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
I guess that's a "sealed for life" engine
- Peter.
__________________
2021 Chevrolet Spark Formerly... 2000 GMC Sonoma 1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021 2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels 1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles. 1984 123 200 1979 116 280S 1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 1971 108 280S |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
There have been MB vehicles delivered with no dipstick also. When I took delivery of my new 2001 C240 back in 2000, I was shocked to learn that it had no dipstick. There was one available from the parts counter as a tool, but I never bought one. The sensors were good enough, and the engine used no oil, so there was never really a need for one.
One of those paradigm changes that's difficult to get accustomed to. Last edited by Air&Road; 09-27-2013 at 10:43 AM. |
#9
|
||||
|
||||
__________________
TC Current stable: - 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL - 2007 Saturn sky redline - 2004 Explorer...under surgery. Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
Electronic level
__________________
TC Current stable: - 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL - 2007 Saturn sky redline - 2004 Explorer...under surgery. Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
The greater issue to me is that you can not a sample of the oil. With a dipstick you are getting to see a sample of the oil to check its condition.
__________________
Current: 1985 300D aka Miss Margaret 1991 300SE aka Alarice 1995 SL320 aka Samantha 1997 K1500 Silverado Past: 1999 E300 ex-wife got it and let her son ruin it 1984 190 2.3 ex-wife got it and let her son destroy a great car 1985 300D (CA version) aka Maybelline lost to deer at high speed. 1981 300D aka Madeline (went to salvage at near 400k) rusty, yet best car I ever drove Wishlist: McFarlan TV6 (only a few privately owned) ReVere with Rochester engine 1917 Premier (only one left) |
#12
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
TC Current stable: - 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL - 2007 Saturn sky redline - 2004 Explorer...under surgery. Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth |
#13
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
Current: 1985 300D aka Miss Margaret 1991 300SE aka Alarice 1995 SL320 aka Samantha 1997 K1500 Silverado Past: 1999 E300 ex-wife got it and let her son ruin it 1984 190 2.3 ex-wife got it and let her son destroy a great car 1985 300D (CA version) aka Maybelline lost to deer at high speed. 1981 300D aka Madeline (went to salvage at near 400k) rusty, yet best car I ever drove Wishlist: McFarlan TV6 (only a few privately owned) ReVere with Rochester engine 1917 Premier (only one left) |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
The oil filter design is brilliant. I say this with no sarcasm.
|
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
You bring up a great point. Since engines rarely consume oil these days, the level is probably being kept up with adequately. What the oil LOOKS LIKE OTOH, is a different issue. The cars that do not have a dipstick have sensors to monitor the quality of the oil as well. I trust THOSE sensors and technology much less than I do the electronic monitoring of the level. All this said, every engine I've seen delivered without a dipstick, has had a dipstick tube. It's not difficult to make a stick out of something to draw a visual sample of the oil. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify the car makers approach, but there are many if not most drivers that barely know how to get the hood open. For them, finding the dipstick is most definitely graduate school stuff. My neighbor came over night before last to show me his new purchase, a 2002 SLK. He is a perfect example of someone that barely knows how to open the hood. The dipstick APPEARED to be the one that they sell at the parts counter. He would probably have never known where to find it or what it was, had I not showed him. |
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|