Agreed, but the sign is pretty darn funny anyway...

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I did laugh when I saw it.

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I believe a portion of the license fee that these big game hunters pay would be used for conservation - to pay for game warden salaries and equipment. Many times the big game hunters (and their supporters) would justify big game hunting under the false pretense that the elephant herd populations were soaring to unsustainable numbers, and hence they could afford to cull them.

However, this is far from true. Elephants have a gestation period of 2-years, and with all the illegal poaching, drought, famine and other variables, the elephant herd continues to dwindle and they cannot possibly reproduce as fast as their numbers are being diminished.

This guy could've used better judgment - but he just espouses the typical selfish attitude, that unfortunately seems to be the common theme within NRA leadership - that "I don't care as long as I get mine" type mentality.

This is not some liberal, tree hugging agenda - within our lifetime we will very likely see elephants in the wild become extinct if their numbers continue dwindling at the current rate.

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If we coul dget the people concerned with elephant survival to pay for capturing and trucking them from over-populated areas to underpopulated areas it would be a huge accomplishment. The African countries have little money, mostly spent on graft and corruption.

The best thing we could do for the elephant and the rhino is paradoxical -- allow trading in animal parts from farm-rasied animals similar to what LA pioneered with alligator hides. Alligators were nearly extinct until some forward-thinking biologists and politicians devised a strategy that allowed taking wild gators for leather while making a profit from nurturing them.

Unfortunately as great of an idea that is - it just cannot work. Farm raising elephants and rhinos is not only cost prohibitive, but it is a time consuming exercise - ultimately it is not profitable from a commercial perspective. Within a 10-yr period (assuming no complications and fertility through-out the time) a female could only produce 5 calfs. Elephants take almost 24-months to produce a calf, while rhino take about 1yr 3 months. In comparison, alligators need just about 2-months to incubate a batch of about 20-50 eggs.

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What has his position got to do with anything? What difference would it make between him and myself if I dropped a few grand to go on an Elephant or even Cape Buffalo or Lion hunt? If you want to criticize hunting, that is one issue. Making it an issue because he is an NRA lobbyist is merely a left wing trying to smear the right wing thing. What makes it worse for him to shoot an animal vs me shooting an animal? Elephant is just as dead.

If he is poaching elephant, I don't care who he is, it is illegal. OTOH, if it is a sanctioned hunt, go stop the legal authority from issuing the permit.

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Pretty sure is not 100% sure, is it?

Are you a DNR agent? What makes you any different from someone who opposes X and takes the law into their own hands because of some "superior morality" or "vigilante mentality" thing? How are you any different from an anti-abortion protester who willfully causes damage to abortion clinics because they believe it is killing a child instead of a blob of cells? Or how about shooting an abortion doctor because it will save babies? IOW, what made you judge, jury and executioner?

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Don't we all care about #1? We do things because it benefits us. Payback comes in many forms.

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You're right - the dead elephant cares not whether this guy was NRA or not; poor judgment from me - I should've used a better source than a FB link on a "friends with elephants" page.

As a side note, it would not hurt the NRA's image if they exercised some common sense from time to time, especially since they're the self proclaimed defenders of the constitution.

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Point is, there are many elephant hunters, so why is he singled out other than because he is a lobbyist for the NRA and a left wing effort at kicking dirt on a right wing support group? Had the "friends with elephants" people simply posted up a web page on all the registered hunters, fair enough. Just a political hay making exercise, nothing more.

The lobbyist is NOT really under their control. That would be me saying that because you are hired by me to do a job, you have to be of the same mindset as myself. Is that any different than me saying to an employee "If you are hired, will you be a Democrat and vote that way?" during the interview and ensure that is the way you are?

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How much is a rhino horn worth? How about elephant ivory?

Both ivory and horn can be harvested without killing the animal, something that a gator really envies.

Should have shot an ass.

Not sure - but a lot. Apparently, in China the rhino horn helps the poor fellows partake in extra curricular activities. The Chinese have managed to replicate almost everything the western world can create, but somehow they haven't been able to manufacture viagra on the cheap.

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How much are you willing to pay? Rhinoceros - Rhino Horn Use: Fact vs. Fiction | Nature | PBS

For me, I'm not interested in buying it. I don't buy trophies of others to mount unless they are human female, on my wall. Anything I hang up has to be shot by me. Do I believe in the medicinal properties? Not a chance. Again, no sale. To some gullible fool, sure. I mean, sex with a female virgin will cure AIDS. Everyone knows that so if I were a superstitious male AIDS patient, you bet I will pay top dollar for a young female virgin to cure myself.

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Viagra is not the best drug and I would go Cialis. The half life is so much longer that it gives you more bang for your buck. "She. Give you everything you want. Boom Boom long time."

Besides, giving them Viagra is not the issue. They trust the old folk remedies more and will use them before that new fangled drug.

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